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Walker (Nitro)

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Originally posted by duffistuta
I just find it weird that someone has dropped an unrelated tear-up into a video...
It gets the crowds in and makes the benjamins....

Originally posted by duffistuta
There's no two ways about it - that DVD is highlighting violence.
Lets ban boxing then, it may be sanctioned viloence but it is still two guys beating the living ****e out of one another!
 

JoseDominguez

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Someone, er, lets say "a freind" may have inadvertently "nudged" a classmate, causing him to trip, launch his javelin straight up and almost skewer the P.E. teacher on the wy back down (eight inches from his foot.....he measured). Javelin was immediately banned......two weeks later I "tripped" whilst practicing the discus..... now they do frizbee.

Oh, for "inadvertently nudged" read "deliberately punched in the back of the neck"........ more accurate :)

As for banning boxing...... waht's that got to do with paintball? boxers agree to get walloped.....they know it's coming. If I get punched on the paintball field. Then I'll treat it as an assault, which basically means there'll be police waiting when the person in question comes round.
 

Tyger

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I think that these should be mentioned right about now.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/news/2000/10/06/mcsorley_assault_ap/

Take a quick look at that link. It's a story about an NHL player, PRO HOCKEY PLAYER, who was arrested for assault for hitting a player on the ice with his stick. The players all said it was "part of the game". A policeman in the stands thought diffrently. A judge agreed. The player, Marty McSorley, was found guilty of ASSAULT.

And that's in Hockey. Pro hockey.

While I'm at it : http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/hockey991208.html A story from a high-school hockey incident which was VERY similar. Except this one happened to the kid after the final buzzer. Final result is a paralised teenager laying on the ice being taunted by opponents.

People say that fighting and violence is a part of hockey.

Do you want them to say the same about paintball?

-Tyger
 

Robbo

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Originally posted by Tyger
I think that these should be mentioned right about now.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hockey/nhl/news/2000/10/06/mcsorley_assault_ap/

Take a quick look at that link. It's a story about an NHL player, PRO HOCKEY PLAYER, who was arrested for assault for hitting a player on the ice with his stick. The players all said it was "part of the game". A policeman in the stands thought diffrently. A judge agreed. The player, Marty McSorley, was found guilty of ASSAULT.

And that's in Hockey. Pro hockey.

While I'm at it : http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/hockey991208.html A story from a high-school hockey incident which was VERY similar. Except this one happened to the kid after the final buzzer. Final result is a paralised teenager laying on the ice being taunted by opponents.

People say that fighting and violence is a part of hockey.

Do you want them to say the same about paintball?

-Tyger
Don't ya just love it when Tyger does this sorta cr@p ?

I am gonna do a bit of stats here, simple stuff but revealing I think...
How many games of ice hockey have there been played in the US over the years?
Hundreds?
Nope,
Thousands ?
Nope
It's more like tens of thousands, that's it tens of frikkin thousands.

Now does Tyger mention those tens of thousands where the police didn't turn up ?

No, he chooses to ignore these in favour of selecting a one off to re-inforce his ridiculous argument and then goes on to compound his lunacy by extending this scare-mongering to paintball.
There have been hundreds of thousands of 'physical contacts' in NHL that could be definitively described (in terms of the rule book) as illegal and Tyger chooses to highlight this as indicative of the evils of the game.

Nah, if any of you need to determine the credibility of this guy, just take a look at page 18 of this month's PGI and I rest my case :)

Also, for those of you people who have got the magazine, go to page 16 and 17 and look at the pic, its of Rich Telford and Andy Kopcok of the Ironmen, nothing spectacular going on there for sure. It is by no means the most dynamic of tourney player pics in the magazine that I could have selected.
It's just an average pic of some proballers.
Now have a quick look at Tyger's pic on the next page and imagine you were new to the sport, which one would you try to emulate ?
Rec or tourney ?
Case closed................................. for ever !
:):):):)
 

JoseDominguez

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Violence shouldn't be an accepted part of any sport. Boxing keeps getting mentioned.......... but violence isn't the aim.... how often do they kick, bite or grapple? just as rare as most other sports (I don't like boxing, but it illustrates the point). Boxers play by the rules and show a lot more control than most soccer players (getting hurt but still playing by the rules). Losing it has no place in any sport, it's rare in most, almost non existent in others. It certainly has no place in ours, there are already too many dangerous situations in paintball (e.g. the concussion bomb attached to your marker) which we are getting too complacent of. We play a sport that doesn't stop when someone spits the dummy....play doesn't stop for a foul, we can't afford this crap on the field.
I'll treat any assault on the field the same way I'd treat it in the street. It's not part of the game, it never should be. So why accept it? But if it happens to me I'll happily help you pick up your teeth and support you dislocated shoulder while we wait for the police to pick you up.
Zero tolerance, it's a non-contact sport. And if you can't take being mugged, overshot or lit up without losing it, then golf could be your game. Nice and solitary if you can't play nice with the other kids.
We always focus on any violence in sport.......this mornings soccer revolved around last weeks punch-up not the two dozen other matches held in the last week...... that's about one percent of soccer players acted like dicks in the last week....but they got about 20% of the coverage today.
 

Mark

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Originally posted by Robbo
Don't ya just love it when Tyger does this sorta cr@p ?

I am gonna do a bit of stats here, simple stuff but revealing I think...
How many games of ice hockey have there been played in the US over the years?
Hundreds?
Nope,
Thousands ?
Nope
It's more like tens of thousands, that's it tens of frikkin thousands.

Now does Tyger mention those tens of thousands where the police didn't turn up ?

No, he chooses to ignore these in favour of selecting a one off to re-inforce his ridiculous argument and then goes on to compound his lunacy by extending this scare-mongering to paintball.
There have been hundreds of thousands of 'physical contacts' in NHL that could be definitively described (in terms of the rule book) as illegal and Tyger chooses to highlight this as indicative of the evils of the game.

Nah, if any of you need to determine the credibility of this guy, just take a look at page 18 of this month's PGI and I rest my case :)

Also, for those of you people who have got the magazine, go to page 16 and 17 and look at the pic, its of Rich Telford and Andy Kopcok of the Ironmen, nothing spectacular going on there for sure. It is by no means the most dynamic of tourney player pics in the magazine that I could have selected.
It's just an average pic of some proballers.
Now have a quick look at Tyger's pic on the next page and imagine you were new to the sport, which one would you try to emulate ?
Rec or tourney ?
Case closed................................. for ever !
:):):):)

OK I will give you the pic of Tyger v The "average tourny player pic" As I do think Tyger takes it a step too far..but he seems happy doing it.
The rest of your post attacking the highlighting of a "one off", well the "one off" made the press as when the hockey stick slashing took place I was in Canada when the event happened and it filled the news networks for several weeks...same week as a guy took a puck to the throat and collapsed with a smashed trachea. This "fight" in the promo vid is by the definition of your post above a "one off"...it isn't common sure but it happens and to highlight it in a promo vid is not the correct thing to do to promote the sport...ok sure it has gotten people talking so that generates publicity but what about the HFB publicity was that positive? Not all publicity is good regardless of the "No such thing as bad publicity ..etc" often quoted statement. Fighting has no place in Paintball how often have you wanted to "lamp" someone for an infringement of what you percieved to be correct, once, twice, half a dozen times, never? Whatever the answer if it is done it isn't right and you can't defend those actions as it doesn't belong in Paintball. The violent side of paintball should remain under the surface not above as of course it is a outlet for anger amongst a whole bunch of other things but as mentioned in other replies violence appears on sports for which we don't associate them with, the anti's will always find something to use against paintball but to give them the ammunition isn't clever marketing. In hockey to use that parallel the refs stay out of it until one player is hurt or they fall to the ice...in Paintball the refs are told to stop it straight away...I have been between two of the largest players in the pro scene both here and in america and it didn't go any further and as you know I am far from large and threatening but nothing went any further so no pics can be produced of anyone hitting another...a sequence of pics was published by PGI last year cleverly omiting the ones where I was between the two players concerned as to have published the entire sequence would not have been good marketing even though the problem was stopped.