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LONDON IMPACT
Jan 4, 2004
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first off im the impact player invold in the zone game and one off my players was filming the game and i was clean when i mugged the zone player in the 50 . and i did not throw my gun i dropped it cos off the shot i toke 2 my hand so troggy get your ****ing facts right before you shout your gob off :mad:
 

Grampz

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I am Capt of lightning (a euphimism for team buffoon). I was on one field when an error was made. The Marshall was big enough to say that it had gone wrong and admitted it. I dont consider he got it wrong, or that he made a mistake. A situation occurred in fast moving aggressive game where the opposition (Swarm) quite correctly tried to push their heads up advantage. Our player drilled the first mugger, was then told "stop" so he did. The 2nd mugger then came round and drilled him (good lad). I am confident that the the swarm player did not hear the call.

We protested various things happened and the Swarm Capt took the view (as would I in his boots) that game over had been called and the points awarded to swarm.

The ultimate was consulted and after much tooing and froing it went to a one on one which we were fortunate enough to win.

The point i wish to make is that the Marshalls did their best and were not acting out of malice. Swarm played their best in a perfectly honourable manner and guts out as i would hope.

This is a fast moving adrenaline high sport where passions and tempers run high. Men and Women love the game and get very heated about it. I would wish nothing else.

My thanks to Swarm and the Marshalls who conducted themselves like men. My respect to you all.

Swarm, we will meet again i expect nothing from you except your best game and I look forward to it with much pleasure.

Grampz aka Bullq ueer Storm Lightning
 

Lurch Thunder

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"Meanwhile the impact players (who were well up on bodies) mopped up the rest of the game."

Not sure what game you were watching Ken but Zone were up 4 on 2 when the mug got pulled, and I would be very interested to see the footage of the "clean mug" as I was posted on the bunker the Impact player left from. Also doesn't explain the fact that a second Zone player got pulled for being shot by a player that had clearly been eliminated. Anyway, you will learn by experience.
 

jinx76

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Jun 16, 2003
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look guys calm down!!!

its like steve(mighty dwarf)said lets stop talking about it because otherwise it will cause friction guys.

I was waiting with the rest of my guys to come onto that field and i can say it happened pretty much as millhouse said and there were a few marshalling errors.The impact player did not throw his marker but dropped it and i really do beleive that the marshall who stopped the other guy did a great job because otherwise chaos would have ensued so well done that man i also agree with lurch the sides were pretty even when this happened but in the confusion impact made the most of the confusion and the game was won by them.

These are just my views and not the views of my teams or any of the company's that support us.

ok guys lets just drop this now and all be friends ok :) ;) ok guys love and peace for all lol.!!!!

regards and respect
 

SiXplicit

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The past is the past - Look to the future!

Everybody is entitled to their opinion and people will always see a situation differently when it affects them directly. I was the field ultimate for field 3, and as it was said before, both teams shook hands and walked off together at the end of the game. I questioned what had happened at the end of the game with 2 of my marshals (Ken included) and the answer I got from both was the same. I do not believe that Zone gave any "extra love". The normal reaction for anybody who spots a runner is to get your gun blazing on them. If 3 people spot this runner then yes, you are gonna get 3 guns blazing on that one person. Unfortunate for that person but then you have to expect situations like this in the game we love so much!!! We have played the Zone guys many times before and I believe they really are a fair & honest bunch of guys. Respect to them, and the Impact guys. The situation was resolved and there were no hard feelings at the end of the game once tempers had settled.

The Swarm/Lightning game was an 'official split second cock-up' which was admitted at the time. At the end of the game, after all the objections we received, we attempted to put the 2 players back in and resume the game from that point. Obviously, with the points in the bag and the game called over, Swarm refused to take the game back to that 1-1 situation. As captain of AFGM, I would've done the same. However, if I were in Lightning's boots, again, I would've contested exactly the same as what they did. Fair enough, I agree the outcome of the game came in a fairly unauthordoxed fashion, and hopefully it will not happen again, but what we all need to do now is forget the past, look to the future and enjoy playing more ball.

I hope relations between ourselves (AFGM) and all 4 teams involved in these 'discrepancies' are not damaged in any way, and that we can continue to share the same mutual respect on & off the field that we always have.

Simon
 

grandad

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Barbie,i was the guy[coach of lightning ],that blew his top at you and your guys over what went on during the game .
For this i appologise to you and your lads ,if it happened again i would react in the same manner ,but that doesnt make it right ,but what impressed me was your honesty in admiting you got it wrong big time ,as you said you wanted to sort it but swarm would have none of it ,so i took it to tourny ultimate and he sorted.reguardless of the end result,your honour was that as far as i saw you and your guys did your best and thats all anyone can ask.
My team will look forward to playing on your field at the next dartfords and feel sure we will get a fair job done under difficult conditions,i myself have judged at many many top flight tournys and know how hard it is.
well done and keep it up,and you will earn a rep as a good judging team .
 

indigo_bo

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What happened!!!!

Have to say I did watch that game between storm and swarm and have one or two views to put across...
As the Dartford sevens being my first tournie in a while I decided to walk around and watch a few games and see how much the game has changed since the last time I played....
(And wowwww it's changed alot)

Now the whole shooting thing between players I didnt actually catch because I wasnt at the point to see. But what I do know is how shocked I was to hear the language that did come out *Grandads mouth during the actual game and after the re-sit game aswell.
I was'nt too impressed to say the least. I feel it was appauling and you could have dealt with it surely in another manner. As the coach its up to you surely to make sure your team are acting in an appropriate manner, but im sorry it seemed it was the other way round on the day.

I have seen one or two members of the original storm team from years back and I know they would never have acted in such a way.

Feel free to spread your critisism...

Indigo_Bo
Andy Boston

p.s if anyone could actually explain what happened it will be much appreciated. My post was only about what I heard personally.
 

go-one

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Sorry for those that asked but can't just 'drop' this one !

I was the player 'Mugged' on the 50 and simply assumed it was clean and walked off. I won't coment on the who was or was'nt shot or whether the guy droped or threw his marker, I was to busy walking to the box !!!

HOWEVER

The players reaction, whether justified or not DID have a DIRECT effect on the game, which as a consequence, in part due to OUR indeference to the actual result resulted in Impact taking the points.

I have NO problem with Impact or the player, OR the marshals, but if this event happened in an event where we were after results as opposed to preformance, or to any number of other teams on the circuit the outcome would have been much different !!!!

The point is we were 4th to Impacts 3rd buy SIX points, a result that should have been different if penalties were assesed as per the rules. I don't actualy care about this as I said we were after a level of preformnce for our first event as Am B's and first of the season. That we achived ! But this just showes what can happen if a simple penalty is't assesed or a bad call is made.

Marshalling is a **** job, for which the guys who do it deserve the pay and respect, but lets not forget that mistakes potentialy have a big impact !!!!