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Jaime

Originally posted by ascutt
Just to let you know. The water situation is nothing to do with the promoter but is a stipulated part of the contract for hiring that location. Basically, due to the locations of the site, people are not allowed to bring food and drink onto the site.
The water situation has everything to do with Millenium booking a site that had a contractual provision requiring athletic participants to purchase water.

Repeat after me:

"We will not use your location if you make our athletes buy water."

There are just some things that should not be compramised on when you're holding a sporting event, and water is one of them.
 

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Re: Jaime

Originally posted by Chicago
The water situation has everything to do with Millenium booking a site that had a contractual provision requiring athletic participants to purchase water.

Repeat after me:

"We will not use your location if you make our athletes buy water."

There are just some things that should not be compramised on when you're holding a sporting event, and water is one of them.
Exactly my point... You can sell everything else ultra expensive and forbid food and alchool from entering the events (alhough food can be troubling also...) but water is a basic good...
Good luck in the next negotiation...

JAC
 

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Hmm

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
Actually, I see nothing wrong with that at all.... kinda like a Formula 1 driver with a lead of 2 minutes, taking it easy the last laps, to spare the tires and not risk a blowout.
No nick, its nothing like that. Not risking a blowout is not illegal. Shooting hot is! The Ton Ton in the 2nd game had a gun go 320+ over the chrono! If you have a gun shooting a shot at 303 then fair enough, it could be an honest mistake, but at 320 it is clearly an intended cheat. No guns fire at 20fps above what you set them at unless there is a clear determination to do so. Many many people came over to me and told me that they had seen the TonTon messing around with their regs prior to the semi games, and after the semi games while the flags were being run back.

They should have been chronoed after the game, especially as i was told by the head marshall that the TonTon did not hang the flag because he did not want to be chronoed. Surely any ref worth their salt would start to get alarm bells ringing in their heads as to the reasons behind this! The judge told me he couldnt chrono a player unless he hangs the flag. This is plain bull****, any ref can chrono any player at any time in the game, i was told as much by Ulrich after the game. Why else would the Ton Ton player not hang the flag unless he knew he had a hot gun?

What took the piss as well, was the Ton Ton player who came over to me at the end of the game and accused me of shooting hot when I shot him. :rolleyes:

The judges bottled it during many games, and it was a shame. The reffing was not anywhere near as good this year as last year.
 

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feel sorry for you man, watching those games u deserved to go through to the finals!!

and i have to say that’s one of the worst case of bad sportsmanship i have seen in paintball

were the marshals French by any chance

surely by pulling penalties on the tontons the game b4 for hot guns should make the marshal be even more wary of there guns and want to check them again?
 

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Well - i saw a judge crono one of the XSV corner guys while he was lanning hes mirror so yes it is bs!


Seen that myself, he was checked while in full ramp, the judge showed him that he was hot but the XSV player pushed it away and screamed do it again to which the judge obliged...no hot gun!

The judge bottled it when really he should have pulled the player! Wonder if that had been any lower div teams would he have acted the same:rolleyes:
 

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Re: Hmm

Originally posted by sjt19
No nick, its nothing like that. Not risking a blowout is not illegal. Shooting hot is!
Not according to the Millenium rules apparently. If the only time they check to see if you're shooting hot is at the end of the game, then the only time shooting hot is illegal is at the end of the game.

Regardless, you're splitting hairs. If I was 100% sure my gun was shooting within the velocity, and my choices are not hang the flag and definitely win, or hang the flag and due to some circumstances beyond my control (mechanical failure, whatever), get a penalty and not win, I'm going to not hang the flag every time. It's just stupid to put yourself in a position where a penalty could be called, no matter how remote the possibility, if there's no reason to.

The problem here is either the rules, if they don't say to check during the game, or the officials, if the rules say to d so and they did not.
 

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Originally posted by Just Curious
Well - i saw a judge crono one of the XSV corner guys while he was lanning hes mirror so yes it is bs!


Seen that myself, he was checked while in full ramp, the judge showed him that he was hot but the XSV player pushed it away and screamed do it again to which the judge obliged...no hot gun!

The judge bottled it when really he should have pulled the player! Wonder if that had been any lower div teams would he have acted the same:rolleyes:
Refs should be paid based on the number of players they pull. Pay doubles if the player is a Pro.
 

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I agree with what has been said about good and bad

But without doubt, the worst thing was that there was no TEA available at the site!:(

Dougal