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DAM, the good and the bad.

Jaime Menino

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Hi Guys,

For those who know me, not that much, know that I'm not the kind of person that rants a’ lot about tournaments.

But I think this one deserves a special attention note.

Once more this year, the 'event location people' decided that bringing food or water to the venue should be forbidden. I can see the food angle: you can’t take food to a restaurant kind of scheme, but the water, what’s that all about?

You could buy a small water bottle (0.5 L) for 1.5€ or a piece of fruit for 0.50€.
That’s real nice for a team already paying an expensive fee to be playing at the event.
Most of the teams had to smuggle water or other drinks in to the premises, at least this year they didn’t search the bags, and my team as many others, was forbidden of bringing more that one 1.5l bottle inside premises: first they said one for player max, and them one for the whole team.
Considering that a team should at least drink 1.5 L per player per day the water bill at the end off the day in this event could easily go to more 50 Euros per team. At least some drinkable tap water should be available for the players in all the events.
We need to start having rules, and this is one of those things that the players committee should be hanging over it.

The marshalling at some fields wasn’t good, and that is being nice about it: on some fields playing on was worth it, since a penalty for it was never enforced. Another point about the ref s is that a lot of them didn’t spoke English with all the teams. I’m not claiming there was biased marshalling but I just don’t see it as a correct thing for a marshal to do.
There was to much talking from the net and sideliness, and it’s funny how some people talk about the French, cause this time I and others saw a lot of Swedes doing it (Yes you know who you are). Maybe its time to enforce a safe perimeter around the field, old-nppl style.

Also I saw several acts of aggression on the fields, not talking about overshooting, but dead players turning their markers and shooting opponents as an act of pure and simple aggression, the reffing crew and all the stands saw it, and no real penalties got applied, on field.
Other point to be considered is the differential treatment that some teams get by marshals: Like a ref that pulled the flag carrier from my team for shooting his marker after the flag got hung, and in the same field with the same marshals CL team did that all the time and never the penalty was enforced.

I would also like to point some of the good things from the event.
Great fields, the tomahawk was out of the ordinary but it was a nice and cool experience.
Great air, as always.
Nice bathrooms, good parking.
The burger house near the parking was great, it had great food and good prices, I really recommend it.
The weather was a bit ****ty but we got by it. At least it was not the 35ºC that we have in Portugal right now.
Overall the Dam, a great place. And DMA an event recommended to all!

Playing with ramping was cool, but I rather play semi and the 15 bps its a future must have in all the tournaments, imho.

Jaime.
 

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DMA was a great event. However like most events there where bad points.

First im going to say thanks to all the American teams that made it over was cool to see you all play. Most of the time there was good sportsmanship amonst players which was wicked.

Good points:

- The grand stand was good, it was all at a level where you could see over each others heads.
- Good organistation, fields set up for spectaters (apart from the ID badge delay)
- Great Trade Stands, the empire trade stand was amazing.
- Parking was good.
- Players tents was good, nice to have tech stands right near.
-Air was perfect.

Not so good points:

-Personally i didnt like the field layouts at all, WAY to many bunkers in my opinion.. getting bounces off other bunkers was rather annoying. Was ok for people who like to just sit back and lane.
-Only 8 prelims

Thats all i can think of at the moment.. my biggest concern was the fields, hope there a lot diffrent in Paris..

See you all there!
 
Jaime

Just to let you know. The water situation is nothing to do with the promoter but is a stipulated part of the contract for hiring that location. Basically, due to the locations of the site, people are not allowed to bring food and drink onto the site.
 

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as far as millenium events go, i thought it wasn;t that great!

I enjoyed the fields, mixing it up a lil is all good fun.

Staging area was alright, needed more tables tho. Having the tech stands next to the staging area was also a good idea

altho why the paint containers were the other side of the venue is beyond me!

Grand stand was kool, DYE vip area was sweeeet, free beer all day long!

Food and water was an issue. 2 euros for a packet of crisps or something stupid!

Alot of waiting around too, with ID cards (still not finished halfway through the friday) and for the results to go up sat night, but i spose these things take time

the marshalling i found was pretty poor across the board. Some fields were alright but others was aweful, watching marshalls not checking players properly and stay well away cos they dont wanna get shot, not good!

but apart from that it was pretty kool, great teams out there, trade stands were good and free baggage storage was a great idea

bring on paris
 

Uncle Fester

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so what you are all saying is nothing has changed much in the millennium series from last year despite all the promises,lets hope Andy Piper and co can start to push for a better deal for the average player.
 

kris

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Jaime

Originally posted by ascutt
Just to let you know. The water situation is nothing to do with the promoter but is a stipulated part of the contract for hiring that location. Basically, due to the locations of the site, people are not allowed to bring food and drink onto the site.
nice ,dont blame me blame him, attitude going on there;)
 
Kris

My point is simply to point out that somethimes, no matter what we want, we just cant change some things. The regulations regarding that land are just that, regulations.

I thought that quite a lot of the issues from last year were well taken care of:
Much better food
No tokens
Cheaper water
 

Piper

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Originally posted by Uncle Fester
so what you are all saying is nothing has changed much in the millennium series from last year despite all the promises,lets hope Andy Piper and co can start to push for a better deal for the average player.
Nothing to do with me mate. The Millennium have there own players committe, there is a thread on the site about it.