CPL Coaching, Dump It

[Christian-Malera]

Perhaps I am not making myself clear the stands are already 20 metres back, I dont think the crowd can be effective from that distance
I would prefer to lose the coach completely and let the crowd cheer whatever they want. Again if you have a coach on the sideline I think it has made the game less exciting and thats a shame
If you feel the crowd can be effective then we will have to disagree I guess
I dont want the snake moved at it opens up the view for the crowd and is usually the more exciting side to watch (when there is no coaching)

Giles, the coaching may make the game less exiting but the same for everyone principle is more important to me.
If you move the crowd back, it will still have a big impact, at least in certain games, in the early games the "spectators" will play a big part.

Believe me, I would like it to be without coaching, and with that I mean no spectator innfluence.
I firmly beleieve that you can't have both and everyone wants the spectator participating, then we need to have a coach.

I also agree with Maqued that we need to play by the rules that the game is played in the US, if they have a coach we need to.

 

[Christian-Malera]

Hmm

I would like to keep the spectator involvement - and if that means you can effectively coach at 9 AM - so be it - it is the same for both teams.... but the REAL coaching going on in most games should be decreased, by saying nobody can be at the netting, and no spectator can be closer to the field
than - for instance - 15 metres.

Nick

So be it ????? are you serious, in a way the most important games are playe without spectators, early sunday.
If it is decided that the game is played with spectator participating, 20m, we as a serious about winning team, would need to bring a coach, we would need to practice coaching, if we get the first game sunday morning, we have to.
Don't you see the stupidness about the hole thing?
If we allow crowd participation we will need to have a coach, for the fareness of the game.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Sure - and what's stopping you?

You are saying yourself that it is the same for everyone - so what is wrong with being able to coach from 15 metres away Sunday morning?

The only change I am proposing, is to decrease the effectiveness of coaches and spectators, by moving them back from the sideline.

Everyone - except Magued - is saying they don't like the impact coaching is having on the game... so why not find a format that decreases that, while keeping the spectator involvement that has greatly improved the atmosphere at paintball games the last 3 years?

BTW - I am yet to have confirmed the best CPL teams will play against the best US teams at the PSP World Cup?

- If that is not happening, there is no reason to have the same rules as in the US, as no Euro teams are playing PSP anyway?

Nick

 

[Christian-Malera]

Sure - and what's stopping you?

You are saying yourself that it is the same for everyone - so what is wrong with being able to coach from 15 metres away Sunday morning?

The only change I am proposing, is to decrease the effectiveness of coaches and spectators, by moving them back from the sideline.

Everyone - except Magued - is saying they don't like the impact coaching is having on the game... so why not find a format that decreases that, while keeping the spectator involvement that has greatly improved the atmosphere at paintball games the last 3 years?

BTW - I am yet to have confirmed the best CPL teams will play against the best US teams at the PSP World Cup?

- If that is not happening, there is no reason to have the same rules as in the US, as no Euro teams are playing PSP anyway?

Nick

Don't you see the problem when you go into an important game and you don't know all the parameters because they change depending on the time of the day you are playing? Please.....

In a perfect world I would like the crowd to participate and not influence the outcome of the game. I don't think this is possible and for me a level playing field is most important, hence a coach.

The intentions are, as far I know, is to have the 4 best Euro teams play the 4 best US teams in a Intercontinental cup at WC.
But if this does not happen I would still like us to follow the US rules, game format, so we can go to the states and compete in more or less the same game. To play a format that allows a coach is a must.

Why we need to follow the US to a certain extent is to big of a discussion to go into for me here, but I think we should look to the states for certain things.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Ok - I buy that argument.

But that being the case, I think the MS should move in the other direction, and have a proper coaches box, like in X-ball - instead of having a "spectator" walking the line outside the netting.

Either or - at the moment we are doing neither.

Nick

 

[Chicago]

A coaches' box is so 2005.

 

[Christian-Malera]

Ok - I buy that argument.

But that being the case, I think the MS should move in the other direction, and have a proper coaches box, like in X-ball - instead of having a "spectator" walking the line outside the netting.

Either or - at the moment we are doing neither.

Nick

couldn't agree with you more Nick. either way

 

[Christian-Malera]

A coaches' box is so 2005.

What are the rules with coaches this season? Please explain.

 

[Baca Loco]

What are the rules with coaches this season? Please explain.

In the NXL "official" coaching is from the pit area only although everyone puts a coach on the spectator sideline the same way you guys are doing it. Sideline coaches may not wear team jerseys or in any other way look like they are actually members of the team(s) playing. (And, no, I have no good reason why that is.)

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Paul

Are there any limitations to what the "specators" can do? - movement limitations, etc.?

Hmm - this is my entire point - it is downright stupid for both the NXL, PSP and MS to say "only coaches in the pit", when EVERYONE knows there are coaches on the spectator side of the field also.

Then what is the point of the rule?

It's like "semi only - but we are not checking for it"

Anyone know what the purpose of changing away from the 04/05 coaching box is?

Nick