cost of markers are outrageous!!
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All of paintball is too expensive, always has been and always will be!
I wonder how much of our hard earned money goes to pay for the prima donna's who call themselves 'Pro' to play?
One of these 'Pro's' claims to shoot up to 2700 balls a game! I bet he dosen't pay for a single one, which means that we do!
2700 ball is about my limit for the day!
Get rid of these sponsored teams and costs will fall.
And if you think that I am bitter and twisted, you better believe it
I wonder how much of our hard earned money goes to pay for the prima donna's who call themselves 'Pro' to play?
One of these 'Pro's' claims to shoot up to 2700 balls a game! I bet he dosen't pay for a single one, which means that we do!
2700 ball is about my limit for the day!
Get rid of these sponsored teams and costs will fall.
And if you think that I am bitter and twisted, you better believe it
Roland
Getting the 'Pros' - or any sponsored team for that matter - to pay for their own paintball would not greatly effect the cost of equipment and paint.
Despite what we like to think, tourney and own-gun players are small fry relative to the money to be made from rental paintball. Any savings a company would make by declining to provide sponsorship would change the price of their products by pennies/cents/whatever , not the tens of pounds/dollars/whatever that would be required to make it worthwhile for the average player.
Besides that, isn't it nice to have something to aspire to? If a player gets good enough they might get to be on a team that gets paintballs goodies for free or at significantly reduced costs. A far bigger incentive for some than mere trophies.
Getting the 'Pros' - or any sponsored team for that matter - to pay for their own paintball would not greatly effect the cost of equipment and paint.
Despite what we like to think, tourney and own-gun players are small fry relative to the money to be made from rental paintball. Any savings a company would make by declining to provide sponsorship would change the price of their products by pennies/cents/whatever , not the tens of pounds/dollars/whatever that would be required to make it worthwhile for the average player.
Besides that, isn't it nice to have something to aspire to? If a player gets good enough they might get to be on a team that gets paintballs goodies for free or at significantly reduced costs. A far bigger incentive for some than mere trophies.
Roland
explain to me what the Pros should do again? I'm not being funny, but to gain the experience to get to Pro level I spent a heap of cash getting my a$$ shot off for a few years, then when you get a bit better you start getting a few free bits and pieces, then you start to build on that and your game etc. Its not like people are born Pro (apart from Lang and Chris Lasagne maybe) we have all played really hard and spent a lot of cash to get to this level. Its still not free though, you would hate to know how much a Millenium tournie would cost even to us.
that player is a dynasty player (2700 balls) how exactly would you get them to
explain to me what the Pros should do again? I'm not being funny, but to gain the experience to get to Pro level I spent a heap of cash getting my a$$ shot off for a few years, then when you get a bit better you start getting a few free bits and pieces, then you start to build on that and your game etc. Its not like people are born Pro (apart from Lang and Chris Lasagne maybe) we have all played really hard and spent a lot of cash to get to this level. Its still not free though, you would hate to know how much a Millenium tournie would cost even to us.
that player is a dynasty player (2700 balls) how exactly would you get them to
where would they play then? At a rec site near you? Then you would spend a lot less money getting beat up with their expensive paint.
If the cost of paintball equipment is bothering you then either get another sport, or get a better job. Simple.
Once you get past a certain level "the best" marker is a matter of personal taste...... I love my E-blades but I'm currently shooting an ironman timmy more often...... is one better than the other? I don't know, I just prefer the timmy right now, is a tricked out E-blade worth more than three times the price of a basic cocker? to me......yes, I can afford it. If I couldn't then I'd get along with what I can afford without complaining about something I can't effect. It would be nice if it was cheaper, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, I'm more worried about the £500 the government skim off my wages every month than the paintball industry making money out of me.
Simple.Once you get past a certain level "the best" marker is a matter of personal taste...... I love my E-blades but I'm currently shooting an ironman timmy more often...... is one better than the other? I don't know, I just prefer the timmy right now, is a tricked out E-blade worth more than three times the price of a basic cocker? to me......yes, I can afford it. If I couldn't then I'd get along with what I can afford without complaining about something I can't effect. It would be nice if it was cheaper, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, I'm more worried about the £500 the government skim off my wages every month than the paintball industry making money out of me.
LATS
If you have a look in the clasified section there are quite a few IR3's going for anything from only £400.
If you have a look in the clasified section there are quite a few IR3's going for anything from only £400.
thanks for all the responses.. like i stated before, for me cost is not the issue since all my team is fairly well off.. we will make all the tourneys we can and it will not be a burden money wise for any of us.. i was just making a observation about what the money is going to.. to me it is about buying a name most of the time.. the e blade i am buying will run me for tank ect over 1500.00 dollars.. no big deal. but, i am also buying a back up gun and that will be a bushie (either a bonebrake or shocktech)..i was just making a observation about how little bang for the buck we are getting in regards to some guns.. but, like anything, you pay the price if ya want the product..
Well, I actually feel there are two different issues here.
I think the original post is more a question of diminishing returns and finding a point with markers where by more money put into a purchase does not equal more performance coming out. I posted about this over a year ago when I was originally getting into torunament play and got a similar response.
Since then I have owned most of the high end guns and I do believe there is a point where by you are paying substantially more for no increase in raw performance, or certainly nothing worth the extra 200-300 pounds/dollars you will be paying.
I think once you get above a marker than can achieve 15-20BPS with some form of anti chop system there is no massive performance gain to be had for spening masses of extra money.
For example, if you bought a Vision Impulse for £400 then I don't think a £900 Angel A4 is more than twice the marker in terms of flat out performance (e.g. balls being fed from your hopper and sent down the barrel).
With the Impulse example you are going past a point of diminishing returns. E.g. paying greater amounts of money for increasingly miniscule performance gain.
However, this then brings us onto the second point. I don't own a gun physically capable of 15-20BPS, I have one capable of 25-30BPS. Can I shoot that fast? No. Do I care? No!
I want me to be the limiting factor, not my equipment.
I really don't feel that paintball is any more expensive than any other top end hobbie.
Golf, per annum costs about the same, so does premiership football spectating, going on the piss every weekend, smoking legal and illegal substances etc etc etc
Everybody moans about the cost of kit but you can go in almost any half decent high street shop and pay £40 for a wooly jumper! And a Dye playing top is expensive???? Pair of Jeans from River Island/Next are about £40 and they will wear out in a couple of months. Pair of JT tournie pants = £50 and I'ver played in them all last year (even went up Snowden in them!!!). So is Paintball kit expensive? Really?
I think the original post is more a question of diminishing returns and finding a point with markers where by more money put into a purchase does not equal more performance coming out. I posted about this over a year ago when I was originally getting into torunament play and got a similar response.
Since then I have owned most of the high end guns and I do believe there is a point where by you are paying substantially more for no increase in raw performance, or certainly nothing worth the extra 200-300 pounds/dollars you will be paying.
I think once you get above a marker than can achieve 15-20BPS with some form of anti chop system there is no massive performance gain to be had for spening masses of extra money.
For example, if you bought a Vision Impulse for £400 then I don't think a £900 Angel A4 is more than twice the marker in terms of flat out performance (e.g. balls being fed from your hopper and sent down the barrel).
With the Impulse example you are going past a point of diminishing returns. E.g. paying greater amounts of money for increasingly miniscule performance gain.
However, this then brings us onto the second point. I don't own a gun physically capable of 15-20BPS, I have one capable of 25-30BPS. Can I shoot that fast? No. Do I care? No!
I want me to be the limiting factor, not my equipment.
I really don't feel that paintball is any more expensive than any other top end hobbie.
Golf, per annum costs about the same, so does premiership football spectating, going on the piss every weekend, smoking legal and illegal substances etc etc etc
Everybody moans about the cost of kit but you can go in almost any half decent high street shop and pay £40 for a wooly jumper! And a Dye playing top is expensive???? Pair of Jeans from River Island/Next are about £40 and they will wear out in a couple of months. Pair of JT tournie pants = £50 and I'ver played in them all last year (even went up Snowden in them!!!). So is Paintball kit expensive? Really?
Just like with cars, clothes and many other consumer products, much of what you pay for is style. Is a Mercedes twice the car of a Volkswagon? Not in most signifcant ways. It might ride a bit smoother, have a bit more comfort, etc, but it's still four wheels and an engine.
The A4 might have some additional polish that the basic Vision Impulse doesn't - nicer lines, more colors, better trigger, etc. At a certain point, you start paying for the little things that aren't readily noticable but add to the "luxery" (or bling-bling, in today's terms) of the product.
The A4 might have some additional polish that the basic Vision Impulse doesn't - nicer lines, more colors, better trigger, etc. At a certain point, you start paying for the little things that aren't readily noticable but add to the "luxery" (or bling-bling, in today's terms) of the product.