well, my basic reason for posting this is the fact that for 1000.00 i would expect more.. i spent quite a lot of money back in the early to mid 90's on markers.. i knew back then that they werre overpriced but, like alot of guys, you paid it if ya wanted the marker.. but, now, with the vast majority of tourney grade markers being 1200.00 and having just basic designs, it makes me wonder..when does a open bolt justify being 500.00 over another open bolt?? it is the same basic design and it functions the same.. the rate of fire is the same and both . for the money, are inconsistant and inaccurate.. like i said, i still believe that they closed bolt is the best but, would like to be able to see what they added cost is for some of these guns.. and no body said it was easy but, being as how we have a design engineer on our team he has taken these apart and looked at the materials and openly said that they have great markups..this is not rocket science..i do not begrudge anyone making a buck.. just want to know what i am spending it on..