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[stongle]

Gaff ?

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
28 BPS measured how ?

I mean - anyone in here...... if someone were to ask you to tap your trigger 28 times in a single second.... would you be able to do it ?

I honestly don't believe that is humanly possible.

Maybe it's just me.... but when I fire my gun as fast as I can, I average around 14 BPS......

Nick

Gotta agree with Brock-meister. Nowt like the smell of BS when some people talk about their ROF.

Hey, if I'm wrong , I'll eat my words, but sleep safe in the knowledge that I ain't going blind.

 

[L J]

if one finger can do 13 bps, 14 if its quick, then it is possible to do 28 bps, because, you look at a race trigger, or any double trigger really, it has the bump in the middle that divides the 2 fingers, if you use this as a contact point, and 'flick the bean ' then you will hit it once on the way down, and once on the way up, which makes 26/28 bps and looks at brian from tsunami fire

 

[Bolter]

its true, all of Storm are currently subject to a finger steroid programme. John Sosta has got onto a course which will teach him the fundementals in trigger dynamics coupled with uber "steroid" fingers. We are then trained up by ninja bovine spiritual leaders all winter and once we have found our inner peace we find 28bps to be of no problem.

29 though......thats impossible and rediculous.

 

[Kyle - Shock Unit 04]

we all know those impulses are cheaters guns.

he he

im joking btw

kyle

 

[liamliddy]

Gaff ?

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
28 BPS measured how ?

I mean - anyone in here...... if someone were to ask you to tap your trigger 28 times in a single second.... would you be able to do it ?

I honestly don't believe that is humanly possible.

Maybe it's just me.... but when I fire my gun as fast as I can, I average around 14 BPS...... and by listening to anyone else out there shooting, I don't think anyone shoots twice as fast..... or even close to it - some may be able to reach around 20, but that's IT.

I honestly think this whole BPS issue is inflated a great deal (a lot of pride in this issue for many players)..... which was my point..... and then also that if a player DOES fire upwards of 20 BPS, something is "wrong" with his gun.

I mean, an UZI has a rate of fire of under 16 per second - and you are seriously telling me there are people that can outshoot an UZI, nearly two to one, on a semiautomatic paintball marker ?

Nick

Have to say i agree with NB on the 28 bps thing, i just cant see it happening

 

[L J]

L J

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
Few people are reaching 13 BPS by actually moving their finger - most do it by fanning.

Anyway.... you will always get the odd one out, but I subscribe to the view that if a player reaches a ROF above 20 during normal play, he is either 1 in a 1000 or has a cheat board !

Nick

generally players wont rise above 20, because it takes concentration i spose. i usually hit 16 bps walking, i could probably do more, although i dont feel the need to, 16 bps is plenty for me.
if a player every hits more than 20bps, it will only be for a split second unless they have really trained their fingers to do it constantly, otherwise, is just their fingers spazzing

 

[Bolter]

I can hit 16-18 very easy with walking or fanning or whatever its called, but these over 20 speeds are recorded over a short time period as far as I know. Which to me wouldn't do much good other than to prove that the gun or in the X-mags case the valve can cycle that fast.

Tell me if I am wrong.

As for gun cheats, the only one I have a problem with is any that make the gun go over 300fps. Thats dangerous.

 

[gaff]

the 28bps was recorded over a couple of shots and averaged, as i said i have achieved this but not in a consistant string, i and many others can attain 18-20bps simply cos the marker can do it comfortably. next time i am at an event you are at have a go, it will outshoot an egg!!! and there are no cheat boards in thes babies i can assure you!

anyone thinking we can do 28bps for several secs should chill out

i have seen the gun cycle at unbelievable speeds tho! but as i said the ramping of velocity is that thing we should be concerned about!

 

[gaff]

Originally posted by Paul Collier
Not doubting but how did the long tube help?

Paul

long tube meant the paint was under pressure and gravity without waiting for he next set of balls to fall in, like if you are low on paint and the egg or halo just through balls around in the hopper trying to get them down the tube! thios longer tube just keeps paint in the tube for longer enabling the hopper to catch up.

 

[Beaker]

It's easy as to get a short enough time between 2 pulls that if you said that the time between those pulls was .056 or 1/18th of a sec, therefore I am shooting 18bps - can anyone phone WDP but I feel it just gives people inflated egos.

I believe (what it seems Nick and Paul do to) is that taking the fastest 2 or 3 shots and then making that your stated ROF is very misleading, some people think otherwise, but I am of the opinion that in order to gauge someones true speed (if you want to) you have to count how many balls left the barrel in (at least) one full second. The shot counters on WAS boards do that, if it says 15 then that's balls out the barrel within a one second period.

I always laugh when people accuse me of shooting too quickly because I am shooting a constant fast string, and then I look at my display and it's only 12 or 13 bps tops, then those same people say, "I know, I shoot 25+bps" and that's just so not true.

As for outshooting an Egg, they only feed at 12-13bps ON A GUN so it's easy to out shoot an Egg, I've seen it where an Egg couldn't keep up with FA Spyder on only 10bps so outshooting an Egg is hardly difficult .

We all seem to agree we don't want markers that rise in velocity. I remember when the RT vavle came out the velocity increases you got a speeds even with manual triggers, what's AGD's stance now, do the new valves still give you that 10-15fps increase?