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Rosie

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I think they made a pretty fair effort (compared to last year's Campaign) at Basildon but once again compromised some of what should be high priorities and this event seems to have regressed somewhat .....
Still, you get what you pay for, don't you?
Do we?
When we compare it to good events, like the German event (I wasn't there, but I heard it was good), do we not see that a better result was achieved, with the same amounts (ish) of money coming in?

It shouldn't be the case of 'when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys' with this (which we all understand), because the price seems fairly fair already.
But then again, I'm not behind the scenes so I don't know- should we be paying more for this? -Is it the fact that we aren't giving them enough money that ties their hands (especially where the events are situated)?
 

Cusack

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Do we?
When we compare it to good events, like the German event (I wasn't there, but I heard it was good), do we not see that a better result was achieved, with the same amounts (ish) of money coming in?

It shouldn't be the case of 'when you pay peanuts, you get monkeys' with this (which we all understand), because the price seems fairly fair already.
But then again, I'm not behind the scenes so I don't know- should we be paying more for this? -Is it the fact that we aren't giving them enough money that ties their hands (especially where the events are situated)?
the millennium is the most expensive event ever! im pretty sure it would be cheaper to go and play an NPPL or a PSP including flights than the millennium. The problem is they are a business and their first priority is making money. If they think they can get away with cheapo events and get a new BMW out of it, they'll go for that without hesitation.. they need the players union to get together and promise that if locations don't improve, they'll lose us alltogether.

I was not there, but from reading what people have said, im pretty glad of it.
 

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Rosie...sometimes teaching ain't always about telling...sometimes it's getting you to ask the right questions...bejeeepers that sounds pompous of me but it is however the truth.
 

Magued

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The money is a issue if youre looking at it short term.
Im sure the rent of the cornfield is better than for example a beach in Malaga. Im also sure that transport etc is more expensive to hold a event in Malaga.
The benifits would be however greater. We would have more teams as everybody loved Malaga.
The vendors would have sold more and the entire experiance would have been better for everybody and especially new players. It would have been worth the time for everybody.
Hotels and rental cars would have been cheaper and we wouldnt have to drive for hours everyday to get to the site..

And most important of all, people would want to come back next year.
The way they are doing it now is just bad for everybody and fail to see why they dont understand this. Paintball is done beacuse people think its fun, if its not fun the sport will die.

I think its a shame as Millennium have done alot of good things this year. The staff, reffs and infrastructure is great and the formats seems to work great. This is just a detail that could with some early planning get sorted, I hope they listen this time as its such a dangerous route for the sport if its not sorted.

Magued
 

Chicago

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Someone mentioned that two of the major vendors didn't show for this event.

That would indicate less dollars in, which might explain less dollars out.

Also, whoever is alleging that NPPL is cheaper is quite far off - price comparison for you:

NPPL Pro: $2950 -
NPPL Semi-Pro: $2750 -
NPPL D1: $2450 - $1771 :Millenium D1
NPPL D2: $2250 - $1609 :Millenium D2
NPPL D3: $1950 - $805 :Millenium D3

Couldn't find the SPL/CPL pricing. But at least for D1/D2/M5, you guys have it MUCH cheaper than we do over here in the states. We pay 40% more for D1 and D2 and a whopping 73% more for D3 than you do (on a per-player basis, since the teams are smaller for you.)

You're doing pretty good on your bang-per-buck. Especially when you compare what Millennium has to work with and what NPPL has to work with, factoring in total attendance and what is surely much higher sponsor support for NPPL.
 

redwop

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it's all about $$ this venue was confirmd for some time (not 3 weeks in advance like on the MM site)
I can show you some venue's in the hart of Belgium BUT they are not for free .....
The local trainings field we play is even better.
 

teamxray

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well i am new to the sport and by reading all these post so far i dont think i will enter some of these tourney's abroad if i ever get that far lol, if they are that bad not very good by the sounds of it so far i have only seen one event so far that was at reading last month and i thought that was quite good thats why i have been buying some equipment to get into the sport but who am i to judge what went on im a newbie but if this keeps up in the chat/forums it will make the sport sound bad and you just maybe put a few people off in doing the sport, just my comment hope not to offend any one with what i said