Once more into the breech
All I'm suggesting is that factors are in play that are slowly changing the general perception of the game and I used the advertising element purely as an example. The images appeal to regular players as in buy this bit and you associate yourself with X. But those same images also create a perception of the nature of the game for people who otherwise only know paintball is shooting somebody with a marker that fires a paintball. All I'm suggesting is the woods, camo, Rambo thing isn't in any way shape or form an essential element of paintball's appeal and that seems to be where we primarily disagree. I have anecdotal Florida evidence and you have Brit scene.
So you're saying that people playing once or twice a year are buying truck loads of markers, packs, pads, clothing, etc. or are you saying the majority of income field operators derive comes from the semi-annual players?
Latest data over here says nearly 8 million people played paintball at least once in 2001 with around 1.5 million playing more than 15 times in 2001. So who played more paintball, the 6.5 million one-timers or the 1.5 million 15 plus timers? And more to my point how many of them played in the woods or played on concept fields and which game are they more likely to want to come back and play again?
I don't know and you don't know. What I do know is that in Florida field operators are spending the dollars to provide concept fields and they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't think it was necessary to build and maintain their business.
Skateboard-types? That's the Warped tour mentality--naught to do with me or my argument. I have never suggested a targeted or limited market you just keep assuming I am because you can't see paintball without the forest.
Hobbit? It goes with the cardigan, don't you think?
With Robo as Sam Ganges.
Sorry, that should have been stuck in the mud.Originally posted by rancid
Bacs,
I aint a stick in the mud... honest.
If you don't believe in the dream you are labelled as anti and old and an obstruction, and that's an easy slur to make, almost as easy as feigning disinterest when you can't muster hard fact... cos I still see nothing in your argument other than 'I am convinced'. (I will read it again.)
The vast majority of paintball's income is generated by people playing a couple of times a year.... this pays for us to play tourney. I do not think that by tailoring paintball to the 'skate-types' you are ever going to replace this income. And this is where I question the economic argument, not whether we should run ads.
Hobbit? Hobbit?
'Hobbit' as in the saviour of Middle Earth?
All I'm suggesting is that factors are in play that are slowly changing the general perception of the game and I used the advertising element purely as an example. The images appeal to regular players as in buy this bit and you associate yourself with X. But those same images also create a perception of the nature of the game for people who otherwise only know paintball is shooting somebody with a marker that fires a paintball. All I'm suggesting is the woods, camo, Rambo thing isn't in any way shape or form an essential element of paintball's appeal and that seems to be where we primarily disagree. I have anecdotal Florida evidence and you have Brit scene.
So you're saying that people playing once or twice a year are buying truck loads of markers, packs, pads, clothing, etc. or are you saying the majority of income field operators derive comes from the semi-annual players?
Latest data over here says nearly 8 million people played paintball at least once in 2001 with around 1.5 million playing more than 15 times in 2001. So who played more paintball, the 6.5 million one-timers or the 1.5 million 15 plus timers? And more to my point how many of them played in the woods or played on concept fields and which game are they more likely to want to come back and play again?
I don't know and you don't know. What I do know is that in Florida field operators are spending the dollars to provide concept fields and they wouldn't be doing it if they didn't think it was necessary to build and maintain their business.
Skateboard-types? That's the Warped tour mentality--naught to do with me or my argument. I have never suggested a targeted or limited market you just keep assuming I am because you can't see paintball without the forest.
Hobbit? It goes with the cardigan, don't you think?
With Robo as Sam Ganges.
