A must read - PA rule change for the 2005 season

[duffistuta]

Originally posted by Chris - Nexus Eclipse
MUAHAHAHA

see i was right, i think it was a good example

to cheat both is puts people in danger, and you are never going to stop people speeding cos they will just slow down for the camera.

AND!!!!!!!!!!!! people will cheat to get past this rule!!!! like have modes that will fire 18 in a game but 15 when tested or something......

..........IN SIX MONTHS TIME YOU WILL BE BACK TO SQUARE ONE!!!!!!

I believe that under Marquis of Queensbury rules, using anything Super Fly says as evidence of the strength of your argument causes instant DQ. Didn't you just feel your IQ decreasing as you typed that post?

 

[Chris - Nexus Eclipse]

Originally posted by Hatts
So you'd rather keep a set of rules that practically can not be enforced? Doesn't hanging grimly on to a set of rules that you can't police just make everyone look a bit silly? Is that not just having rules for the sake of having them?

If evolving the rules to take into account new developments and advances in technology is not the answer then what is?

I think your reaction is somewhat OTT. On what grounds do you base your asessment that this is "DANGEROUS" or is a "time bomb"? For what exactly? "Some kid dies..." my god, what bed time stories were you told as a child?

Alarmist comments like this do little to help. If you have some hard and fast evidence that this proposed rule is dangerous or could in anyway cause someones demise then be so kind as to present your case in reasoned manner and I'll listen to it.

Look, take my speeding example, its the law....it cant be effectivly policed.....but its there for a reason.

just cos you choose to sweep the problem under the rug dont mean its gonna go away.....

like i said it will all be back in six or ten months or however long it takes for people to cheat this new rule. in my opinion, and thats what it is, you should find ways of inforcing the current rule.

alarmist, maybe.....but whos to say it will not happen. one pull, 15bps in the head, spine, neck whatever. ANd by your 'new rule' thats ok

how can that be right??!!?!!

 

[duffistuta]

Originally posted by Chris - Nexus Eclipse
Look, take my speeding example, its the law....it cant be effectivly policed.....

Yes it can. It isn't being at the moment, but the technology is there to do it - the potential is not there with Paintball as it is now. The rules are obsolete.

 

[Super Fly]

Originally posted by duffistuta
I believe that under Marquis of Queensbury rules, using anything Super Fly says as evidence of the strength of your argument causes instant DQ. Didn't you just feel your IQ decreasing as you typed that post?

but when Super Fly states FACT, u can use that as evidence

i ahve to agree with chris, jsut cos peeps are getting passed being caught by speed cameras dont mean they should lift it an lets peeps drive at 150 mph, but not over 150mph, cos that might kill some1

enforce strict punishment on those using cheat boards, a season ban from that series for example but there must be some way of detecting gun cheats. i mean come on look at all the technology in the world today!!!

 

[Chris - Nexus Eclipse]

not true, the technology is there......the money is not. When people say there is no solution to the cheat problem, they are either wrong....or they mean a solution that wont cost millions.

just think, each gun fitted with sensors that transmit info to a central tournament computer. if the sensors were tampered with the team is banned.....cheaters would be caught.

there an answer....practical....hell no, that would cost tens of millions in RnD....nobody is willing to do that

but making it all legal isnts the answer, its running from the problem

 

[sie2050]

sorry if this has been mentioned.

1.
y dont the PA make a rule that only allow factory board and chips in the markers that are goin to be used for example you have to hand your marker and other spare markers that you might need to use into the techs a week b4 the tournie and you get them handed back to you at the tournie when you sign in and if there is a violation the gun is confiscated and wil not be allowed to be used in the tournament and a fee will have to be paid to get your marker back at the end of the tournament and you will have to change your board to be allowed to play in the next tournament.
2.
names of violators will be kept and if you violate more than say 3 times then you will banned for that tournament and the one after it.

jus a thought and i think people will not want to pay fees just so they can cheat.

just a thought remember so plz dont engulf me in abuse.

 

[duffistuta]

Originally posted by Super Fly
but there must be some way of detecting gun cheats.

I'm glad we got there eventually...there isn't a viable solution. That's why the leagues are reviewing their policies.

 

[duffistuta]

Originally posted by Chris - Nexus Eclipse


but making it all legal isnts the answer, its running from the problem

No, it's looking at the problem cooly and clearly and looking at what's more important - having a level playing field and a genuine sport, or having a farce. I repeat, Paintball is currently the latter, whether you recognise that or not.

 

[fordanaldino]

why is everyone moaning about being able to shoot fast and now there not allowed.

it aint a skill, and all the people who shoot fast have fast guns, like timmys etc. that add shots for you.

it just means you wont get penalised for doing it now.

yay

 

[Super Fly]

Originally posted by duffistuta
I'm glad we got there eventually...there isn't a viable solution. That's why the leagues are reviewing their policies.

aint no such word as cant/isn't/aint - didn't ya mom teach you anything

tbh i dont mind the current system, the stupidly bouncy guns get cought by marshalls, but then again we have an increse of options for gun cheating chips in guns

one option can be stoping from the source, may be hard and the only option cud be dropping napalm on these kind of places that make them.

now then sie's idea is on the right track, in my opnion but a bit inrealistic and out of proportion