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A letter to Bush

JoseDominguez

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Everyone's an expert on football and war

Originally posted by samdudin
I haven't got time to correct all the misunderstandings on this thread - too busy working on War Studies Masters degree. All I will say is that no other field of human endeavour is as complex and emotive, with common sense meeting paradoxical logic, with such a perplexing matrix of interlocking factors, many of them invisible to the public. To even begin to understand the phenomenon of war one must have a comprehensive grasp of politics, history, philosophy and economics, and a little psychology helps, but isn't essential.

You wouldn't walk into a hospital and expect the doctor to ask everyone in the waiting room whether they should operate on you. You'd rather have the expert's opinion. The same is true of war. War Doc's like Sir Lawrence Freedman, or Dr Joe Spear, know what they are talking about - the former is for military counter-proliferation and against sanctions - the latter, I suspect, believes in the opposite. If you want to further your knowledge, I recommend checking them out - they're often on the TV, or in newspapers. If all you know about war is stuff scavenged from journalists or picked up from Vietnam war movies, then maybe you should ask yourself before you write, 'Do I really know what I'm talking about.' Perhaps you're not an expert on football or war after all.

An interesting and detailed philosophical argument and....... no hang on, I think you'll find it comes down to "he's an evil bugger, someone tw@t him".
Thankyou and good night.

Oh, and thanks for not correcting our mistakes, after all you are studying for a "war studies masters degree"...... so what your saying is, you're a student? What's that for then? you going to be one of those "experts" on TV who draws little tanks on a map using a lightpen?
Oh, and the "experts" you mention, who know better than us, don't they have contradictory opinions?
 

JoseDominguez

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Wow, nicely irrelevant.
I wasn't aware their was a pro-crime lobby.

It's not the stance on war I'm against, it's those that are pro-war and show it by arguing on the internet......... utterly pointless. What are they trying to prove? How many "enemy" posters are there on here? not a lot, so carry on arguing, I don't care, I'm not interested in a pro-war opinion from someone who's done nothing more for the war effort than post "witty responses" read back through the posts, I originaly posted this in response to an individual who started "what really p!sses me off is............" then ranted about everyone who doesn't believe blowing people to crap is a good thing.
So ..... do you believe in the war to the extent that your willing to let your countrymen die for it?, but your not willing to yourself? that's my point. I just feel that this is too serious a subject for the normal point scoring it's degenerating into.
 

ABBA

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Just a thought...
Why dont we do away with all war studies master degree schemes, then no-one will understand war and all our problems will be solved! :D




sorry :rolleyes:
 

TheRo0sTer

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My 2p...

I think it was all summed up with the headines on a British News Paper, "Iraq bombs our boys with weapons he didn't have!"

I just wish all the tree hugging protester would have seen that. May have saved all of us tax payers money to not have all the Police out in force to keep the peace!

Between all of us I hope they killed that SOB on the 1st day of bombing.
 

headrock6

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Shhhh.If you dont wear a uniform,you have no right to care or to speak your opinion about security,disarmament,or the oppression of people.:rolleyes:


And I dont know about the protests by you,but my tax dollars spent are well worth it when I get to see a peace protester get walloped by a police baton for being violent:eek::p ..Kinda ironic huh..

And unfortunately,him being dead doesnt seem to be the case..I dont know if hes capable of running his troops,but it looks like he survived $23 million worth of Tomahawks..


Check out this site..Dont know how credible this is but Reuters is saying its a man in Baghdad with internet access thats giving day to day accounts of the war..You can see it here if you can get on... http://dear_raed.blogspot.com/
 

bluelite

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I've read a lot of interesting stuff on here recently and am glad that those of you across the pond discuss these events with a touch more decorum than my locals here in the states. I am a police officer in a large city. I have bled for others and wear body armor and a weapon 40 hours a week if not more while I hunt bad guys and try to keep them from ruining some average joes day. My wife has been deployed to the war. What I do is nothing compared to the sacrifice she is making. Although personally this military effort is costing me dearly, I do believe that as an American, I owe it to the people we elected to give them the benefit of the doubt. They have access to information that I don't have and I am positive that they believe that what they are doing is the right thing to do. Very often I see things on patrol that I know are occurring, such as drug dealers on corners and burglary suspects walking around carrying stuffed backpacks. However, knowing something and proving it are two different things. What I know will not get a conviction in court, but will probably not get anyone killed. What Bush and his advisors know may or may not hold up in some court, but will likely end with someone suffering miserably before expiring. I am proud that they have taken a step to do something about it, regardless of any other motives. I do what I do to help people, but that's only part of it. Part of it is that I like the chase and the ensuing excitement of a particularly difficult arrest. Does that make me a bad person. I don't think so. Saddam is a bad guy and needs to go. If something happens that I do not agree with, I will protest the way every smart and decent American should; with my vote at the next elections. I'd like to take a moment to thank all the soldiers and their families for the efforts that they are making because their countries told them to. We have a volunteer military and it is filled with noble people doing noble things with very little reward. I'd also like to ask that they tell their families to stop beating the crap out of people who spout off without realizing they're in mixed company. Doing reports related to those disturbances is getting a little old. :)