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Ginja

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i agree to an extent, yeah need a comitee and stuff orginised. i believe we are sort of doing this through ukpsf as by getting them to run the league they are doing this job. web site wise hell yes exploit the student, at the end of my 2nd year i was the dogs bollox at web sites and being paid ****e loads from companies, though i wouldnt do this for free now so i believe we need to find a 2nd year who wants to gain a bigger CV (Computer Science people only, no dreamweaver 'experts').

Server wise i have always used altstudio.co.uk, google for them as i believe its £50 a year so thats wha £3 a club? that includes php and mysql database so can set up our own forum.

any other offers go for it guys, tho main thing i need is confirmed prices for next year as am sorting out next years comitees finance plan
 

AUPaintSoc

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GinjaKunt said:
i agree to an extent, yeah need a comitee and stuff orginised. i believe we are sort of doing this through ukpsf as by getting them to run the league they are doing this job.
UKPSF are running the 06/07 inter-Uni League? Are you sure?

To what extent do you agree? Wouldnt you say that it was an absolute neccessity to have some recognisable and contactable management system in place in order to have some degree of credibility? In fact if we had some sort of committee in place already then a lot of the problems (lack of communication, lack of facts/figures etc) would have been ironed out as we would have discussed and agreed on these topics already!

Agree on the whole webserver idea though, it wont be expensive, and considering the cost of the league on the whole, no team can possibly complain about an extra £10-£20.....
 

Ginja

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it was my impresion that next year ukpsf were to orginise all our events, im sure steve has been preaching about this all year. The idea being we pay affiliation costs and they orginise ****, or have i not been reading this recently.

My agreeing to a point was in reference to the way you dumped down somoenes offer to construct a site, as yeah i do believe we should have nominated people and **** to run this but if anyone offers a hand then they should be allowed especially as no one else has. I believe this dude should have a site with the aims and objectives you mentioned, possibly put a fourm on it (i have old php code for one if someone want it). chuck all this together and have a bull**** site for the moment.

comitee wise if we are affiliated and those dudes do the running then surely it would be a waste of time orginising atm, best idea is to wait for our lord (steve) to get back and mention what going on with them.
 

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GinjaKunt said:
it was my impresion that next year ukpsf were to orginise all our events, im sure steve has been preaching about this all year. The idea being we pay affiliation costs and they orginise ****, or have i not been reading this recently.

My agreeing to a point was in reference to the way you dumped down somoenes offer to construct a site, as yeah i do believe we should have nominated people and **** to run this but if anyone offers a hand then they should be allowed especially as no one else has. I believe this dude should have a site with the aims and objectives you mentioned, possibly put a fourm on it (i have old php code for one if someone want it). chuck all this together and have a bull**** site for the moment.

comitee wise if we are affiliated and those dudes do the running then surely it would be a waste of time orginising atm, best idea is to wait for our lord (steve) to get back and mention what going on with them.
Well in this particular thread there was no mention of the UKPSF being used to run the league. Affiliation with the UKPSF was mentioned as being of benefit to the Universities, but not really connected with the league as such.

If you read the post I didnt 'dump' on the guy (indeed I made sure he realised that I wasnt talking about him specifically), I made the point that it was important to have a credible air to us. Why do we need a seperate forum? We can use this one until our own one is up and running. What aims+objectives would we put on? Nothing has been set down on paper!! Thats why it would be good to get people together to get this going. I agree though, the more people offering help the better, indeed thats one of the things that I expect will make this event really successful, people helping, giving (too much :) ) advice and giving more than they take (Mr Hancock et al).

Ill chat to Steve tomorrow, see if we can get dates/times/locations and prices finalised. I know theyre up on the Brum website, but it would be nice to see them finalised for sure. To be honest all we need are dates and costs, everything else can be modified over the next couple of months.
 

Ion

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What's been proposed sounds great, the idea of the committee with a rep at each uni will hopefully ensure that the series lasts beyond the organisation of one invidual.

The website would be an excellent way of A) promoting the series B) organising events C) just getting people talking. I am more than happy to give any help i can with this (yes i am a CS student:D ).

Andy
Uni of Kent
 

Steve Hancock

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Hi, good to have p8ntballer back isn't it. :)

I was hoping to have everything finalised and announced by now, but one or two details are still provisional. (There's only so many hours I can spend on the phone each day. :p ) Should be announcing in a week or so. But in answer to the questions raised…

Committee
One the things I have been working on is the establishment of the organising committee for university paintball events. Not only from the practical point of view of sharing the load but also for the sake of our credibility with the likes of BUSA. A committee that is either part of or recognised by the sport's national governing body is actually one of their requirements. There is also the fact that I will be graduating in a month or so. Once everything is set up I intend to step back. While I will be happy to chip in with a bit of guidance from time to time, it is a uni league and belongs to the students and should be led by them.

However there are a number of criteria and pitfalls we need to be mindful of when setting up the running of university paintball. A few years back there was an attempt to get uni paintball going. It fell on its arse because too much time was spent faffing with committee structures etc. It ended up as a talking shop that got nothing done. Committees are a good way to run established systems, but they are not the best way to innovate and set things up. They are also a good way to ensure that the running is representative of everyone involved. But this can also be there weakness when setting things up, because people often don’t know what they want and end up screwing things up (due to the Dilbert principle). Once things are up and running, a committee is essential to maintain continuity and to ensure fairness. But to start with the priority has got be getting things running which is best done without the confusion of too many cooks.

The plan I am currently working on is to set up the league in consultation with the host universities, and seeking the views of the clubs. Then, once everything is set-up, to hand over to an interim committee made up of reps from the host universities. Towards the end of the season you guys can elect a proper committee ready to run next year.

UKPSF
I have been speaking with Steve Bull (head of the UKPSF) about a number of things such as the affiliation package, but there are no plans for the UKPSF to run the league. They will help us with a number of things that will allow us to organise the league with greater ease.

Website/forums
One of the benefits the UKPSF will provide us is a university paintball section on the UKPSF website where details of events, the different clubs, etc will be published. We will also have a forum for people to discuss the league and other issues such as how to start a club, funding etc. The cost of hosting of this will be covered, so no extra cost to the universities. This should be up and running later this term.