The NPPL is sold!?

[Baca Loco]

Paul, actually I get sick and tired of people's resolve to avoid the truth at any cost and blame others for bias.
Honestly mate, it sickens me, I hate that weakness in people, it truly is pathetic.

I think in this case most folks who care one way or another are simply expressing new found or wished for hope that perhaps this time Paintball may be on the verge of ... well, whatever it is that folks hope will become of Paintball. Sports legitimacy perhaps.
This could be another fresh start if you will and I think it's not only natural but a good thing if peeps are receiving this news positively.

(Though as a general proposition I don't disagree with you. )

 

[Chicago]

Hmmmmmm, I think we are in agreement here because I think I have said much the same thing, I'm just suggesting something else other than the purchase of the league itself must be planned.
And you basically have agreed with me as you suggest that 'with more resources available', lines can be created.
It just remains to be seen, what lines....

The big question that seems to surface in my head is, are these people coming into paintball in terms of creating new product lines and thus using the league as a convenient and necessary vehicle or ... are they purchasing the league because they wish to develop the media side of things ?

Hmmm, my guess would be the latter but it then begs the question, what do they know that we don't because of late, the TV option has had some very real problems and unless this company has its own access points to the media, it's gonna be quite a struggle to develop the traditional NPPL product with the traditional contacts in the media.

Still, it's all quite exciting and I am sure it will be good for the sport of paintball.

I don't think the new owners plan to do anything beyond what NPPL was already trying to do.

 

[Robbo]

I don't think the new owners plan to do anything beyond what NPPL was already trying to do.

Then the acquisition makes no sense whatsoever Chi, no sense whatsoever. Hey - I can even achieve what they have just bought into then, 'hmmm, now where's my wallet, then I gotta go find a trash can and deposit said wallet in there'....

I'm sure you can work out what I am saying here Chi .......

 

[Robbo]

Robbo and Missy Q.
First things first, Missy you don't sound like your from Harlem but we can get into that at a later date. For you Robbo I did not intend to accuse you of anything but rather asked you to show what side you are leaning towards. It was a little payback for asking those direct questions to me last week on that other post. As far as who I am, it doesn't matter because I am no one.
JPB

JPB, I wouldn't have thought the fact I had asked two legitimate questions of you hardly warrants a thinly veiled accusation of bias .... I'll put that down to an aberration on your part and move on ....

As for what side I am 'leaning towards' ?
If you mean what side am I biased towards, then I'm sorry to disappoint here but I am biased toward nobody; I will restate, if I am biased toward anything, then I am biased toward telling the truth...end of !


Chicago, I think I need to clarify myself here, I just talked to Beaks and he sorta thought I was saying the NPPL was gonna be a white elephant, no matter what.
You seem to be saying, you don't think it is because the guys who have acquired the NPPL have strong media connections and can make the best use of those and therefore make the NPPL a viable acquisition.

This is easily reconciled, I agree, that if the new company has the same development ethos as Pure Promotions and can bring to the table a whole new raft of media connections and skills, then the acquisition of the NPPL makes sense ... a lot of sense.

My point of view was based upon the NPPL as is ... and at the moment, the NPPL has no serious media deals because if it did, then it wouldn't have been up for sale in the way it was.

I think me and you were arguing slightly different points but in reality, I think both of us are in full agreement on what's gone down and the reasons behind it.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Robbo you are correct in saying that "they" always spoke about getting outside sponsors and never were able to. Has anyone ever thought that the people in charge of either league never had the right proposal, connections, a real businesslike approach as well as as a real polished businessman who can go after the real pros and put together a real presentation where real value can be shown

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement

SOP for any paintball league (and most manufacturers as well), has so far been to hire former players and/or low grade sales personnel to do sales and marketing.

It would be like the NFL promoting a Nike store clerk to the job of closing major sponsorship deals

Obviously there are some intelligent and talented people amongst those hired... but if trying to attract major International brands as sponsors to large scale action sport events is the objective.... the best way to go about it, is probably not to hire people that spend the first couple of years training on the job, from a starting point of zero exeprience in the market.

It harms more than it does good, because with most major brands, you get one shot every 5 years, and if you **** it up, you have no chance with them for a long period of time.

Peronally, I believe both the NPPL, PSP and Millennium Series are fantastic brands, that could EASILY attract a lot of companies outside paintball... and the only reason they have not so far, is that the good people trying to make the deals (while nice people and well meaning), are completely clueless as to how to go about closing such deals.



Nick

 

[PSPLane]

It would be like the NFL promoting a Nike store clerk to the job of closing major sponsorship deals....

.....the only reason they have not so far, is that the good people trying to make the deals (while nice people and well meaning), are completely clueless as to how to go about closing such deals.

Nick

I resemble those remarks.

 

[Robbo]

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement

SOP for any paintball league (and most manufacturers as well), has so far been to hire former players and/or low grade sales personnel to do sales and marketing.

It would be like the NFL promoting a Nike store clerk to the job of closing major sponsorship deals

Obviously there are some intelligent and talented people amongst those hired... but if trying to attract major International brands as sponsors to large scale action sport events is the objective.... the best way to go about it, is probably not to hire people that spend the first couple of years training on the job, from a starting point of zero exeprience in the market.

It harms more than it does good, because with most major brands, you get one shot every 5 years, and if you **** it up, you have no chance with them for a long period of time.

Peronally, I believe both the NPPL, PSP and Millennium Series are fantastic brands, that could EASILY attract a lot of companies outside paintball... and the only reason they have not so far, is that the good people trying to make the deals (while nice people and well meaning), are completely clueless as to how to go about closing such deals.



Nick

Nick, I think all 3 of us then agree on this point but it's not as if this is the first time tihs shortfall has been highlighted, I have mentioned it several times before and I'm pretty sure you have done the same, yet still nothing changed.
Maybe this new regime can listen to its own counsel and take our sport forward, let's hope so coz it would sure make a change.

 

[Robbo]

I resemble those remarks.

Stay where you are, I will call you in 5 mins.

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

I resemble those remarks

Not to put too great an emphazis on my point buddy.... but I guess you mean "resent"

Anyway Lane... knowing you as a very honest person, I think you will be the first to admit that in your first period doing the job, you would have been hard pressed to run a sensible dialogue with the marketing department of a major internation brand?

It would probably have created greater chances of outside sponsorship, had the PSP hired a professional media/marketing person for that specific part of the job

Nick

 

[JPB]

Robbo, you are a little sensitive

Robbo,
I was a little surprised by your defence of yourself. My questions were questions and not in any way accusing you just questioning you. Maybe it was the way I said it to you. But I will say a man of your stature should have a little thicker skin. It was not a attack of you or your integrity, that is not my style. On that note have a good day Mate.
JPB