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[Beaker]

I was in the grandstand, so saw it from the snake side.

veryone seems to agree that Alex and the 2nd-to-last Joy player were called out together on a simul. BC then runs to the snake to "make sure". I was watching from the VIP side of the field and I (and others) are virtually certain that BC got hit by the last Joy player going into the snake, and was out.

The 2nd to last Joy player DID NOT PLAY ON

Sorry - he DID play on. He shoots Alex as he goes past (mutual). He dives into the next knuckle and shoots BC once BC has gone over the top and hit his back.

Now, from where I was I didn't see BC get hit going in. I saw him get hit on the legs and gun by the second to last Joy guy when he falls over the snake, (who'd already been eliminated by both the mutual and BC going over the top.) That's the penalty I think they called.

on the video you see BC having his back on the snake/Fraige when Scandal goes to bunker the snake-guy

BC was jumping from one side to the other. As soon as the crowd starts shouting BC was looking snake side. Because the Joy guys back was to me, I don't know if he was hit, but BC was definitely shooting that way.


Right - just watched the replay. The overshooting was on the last Joy guy. Look at Alex's back about 28 mins in. You can see the centre ref in the yellow mask look down the snake after the last Joy guy, but then as soon as Sebban rounds the snake he must have shot up Alex. At that point you see the Ref suddenly run after Sebban BEFORE Sebban had even shot at BC. Add to the whole shots on BC to Alex and I think Sebban got the overshooting penalty, which would have given Dynasty the win.

EDIT - http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68986

Those shots on Alex could only have been from the last Joy guy, and looking at the replay when you watch the ref in the yellow mask he suddenly runs after him as he rounds the snake. I think that was it.

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68984

That doesn't help either...

 

[Revolt]

alex fraige spun on the joy guy who bunkered him though

how is this not a 1 4 1

you can CLEARLY see in the pics the joy guy shooting him in the arm then fraige turns round and shoots him..

when scandal mugs fraige the first thing he sees is his pack from the first pic i posted, scandal would of shat all over him well before he was able to turn, as you see from later pics on pbstar when fraige's pack and arm are covered in paint from the first joy guy... so fraige played on in my eyes

 

[NinthWizard]

alex fraige spun on the joy guy who bunkered him though

how is this not a 1 4 1

you can CLEARLY see in the pics the joy guy shooting him in the arm then fraige turns round and shoots him..

when scandal mugs fraige the first thing he sees is his pack from the first pic i posted, scandal would of shat all over him well before he was able to turn, as you see from later pics on pbstar when fraige's pack and arm are covered in paint from the first joy guy... so fraige played on in my eyes

Totally agree with you there mate Joy were robbed!!!

 

[Revolt]

EDIT - http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68986

Those shots on Alex could only have been from the last Joy guy, and looking at the replay when you watch the ref in the yellow mask he suddenly runs after him as he rounds the snake. I think that was it.

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68984

That doesn't help either...

look a the first pic of sebban mugging fraige, the first thing he sees is his pack and leg, which funnily enough is where the paint is

anyway

it was overshooting from joy

it was playing on from dynasty

had the 1 4 1 being called on dynasty like it should have then there would of been no overshooting :>

at the very least it should of been a 1 on 1 to decide it...

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[Beaker]

you can CLEARLY see in the pics the joy guy shooting him in the arm then fraige turns round and shoots him..

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68972

Look again.

That isn't paint on his arm but a Redz armband. Dynasty were wearing red one and Joy were blue -
http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68966

So sorry - that's NOT when Alex was "clearly" shot.

 

[Revolt]

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=68976&g2_serialNumber=1

look at fraige's right shoulder.... (as we look, its actually his left)

that his right shoulder would of been overly exposed to the incomming joy guy and imo he would of shot him and dived onto the floor then fraige turns round and has his gun on him, and whether or not he fires its still a 1 4 1

 

[Beaker]

look a the first pic of sebban mugging fraige, the first thing he sees is his pack and leg, which funnily enough is where the paint is

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68976

You can see side of Alex's leg and you can't see his pack there, you CANNOT see far enough round for the shots that are in
http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68984

Alex was hit in his front and was shot on the gun by Scandal (you can see the hit on his reg -
http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68984

Because he was looking that way... I was there and I (and those with me) thought Alex was a mutual at WORST.

Watch the replay watch the reaction of the furthest ref to Sebbans run - THAT (edit didn't finish) was the penalty.

 

[Revolt]

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68976

You can see side of Alex's leg and you can't see his pack there, you CANNOT see far enough round for the shots that are in
http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68984

Alex was hit in his front and was shot on the gun by Scandal (you can see the hit on his reg -
http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=68984

Because he was looking that way... I was there and I (and those with me) thought Alex was a mutual at WORST.

Watch the replay watch the reaction of the furthest ref to Sebbans run - THAT (edit didn't finish) was the penalty.

yeah but is it that impossible that alex didnt see him comming, so he shoots his pack leg and shoulder, then alex spins.....

seems a lot more possible than the last joy guy coming round and shooting fraige...... as fraige doesnt complain about it what so ever- and none of the refs mentioned it, he only overshot BC, who should of been taken out anyway

 

[Beaker]

http://www.paintballstar.com/pn/modules/pnGallery2/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=68976&g2_serialNumber=1

look at fraige's right shoulder.... (as we look, its actually his left)

that his right shoulder would of been overly exposed to the incomming joy guy and imo he would of shot him and dived onto the floor then fraige turns round and has his gun on him, and whether or not he fires its still a 1 4 1

That's a mugging, Alex didn't turn past 90' at worst, it's a mutual.

 

[Revolt]

That's a mugging, Alex didn't turn past 90' at worst, it's a mutual.

i disagree mutual to me is when the guy is running towards the player and they both shoot each other

not when one player is shot, dives to the ground, then the other guy turns round and shoots him, fraige is even shooting right handed which doesnt prove anything but it shows that he was so late on noticing the joy guy he didnt have time to switch and shoot him as "he was running to him"

imo the joy guy got him first, and first by a long enough time for it not to be mutual

but i guess it comes down to everyones preference....