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Originally posted by Chicago
On the scale of "entitlement to the title 'world'".

WPL and 7-man World Cup draw from about the same population size and geographic area - one continent and 450-500 million each.

Even just looking in paintball, 7-man World Cup is much closer to WPL than regular World Cup, which draws teams from 5 continents and many more countries.

On the sporting scale, it's much, much closer to WPL than the Olympics, or Football World Cup, which draws teams from almost all countries and 6 continents.

The only thing 7-man world cup has going for it over WPL is number of countries. If WPL went and got teams from mexico, belize, costa rica, el salvador, panama, honduras, guatamala and nicaragua, would they be able to call themselves "World" then in your estimation? What's the number of countries you need? How about north and south america, that would be more than 7-man World Cup.
Aaron, I agree with what you are saying in that the area in which the 7 man Toulouse does excel, (1000% excel by the way) is the number of teams represented and that is why I previously quaified what I thought the word 'world' signified.
Now this discussion can run around the maypole of debate a million times if we are using different assignations of meaning for the word 'world'.
All the time you consider the word 'world' to mean qualititve or geographical and I am using the world 'world' to represent number of countries then we will eventually disappear up each other's ******* in a cloud of nonsense.
And on that note, if you persist in defining it in qualitive terms, good luck to you mate because it ain't what I understatnd it to mean and seems more like a convenient device to extend this debate when it should have ended about 5 posts ago.
Peace !

PS, I still think you are quite bright Aaron but maybe a bit Brockdorff'ish :)

No offence Nick !
 

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The 7 Man World Cup is open to teams from all countries, whether they enter it or not. Many of the countries not participating at least aspire to one day and will be able to once they get thier collective **** together. The WPL is a closed shop franchise organisation and thus world-wide teams (should they wish to enter it) would not actually be able to get in without purchasing a franchise. This point alone validates Pete's end of the debate, and makes a mockery of the 'WPL' as being a 'World' anything.
Chicago's argument that because the States are big they should be able to be considered as 'the World' without any other countries being present is something only a redneck would say.

I rest my case.
 

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Originally posted by Chicago
So, given there is no representation from Africa, Australia, South America, and token representation from Asia (Isreal), where does 7-man World Cup get off calling itself "World"? It's one continent.
Well Chicago, Toulouse actually has had teams from Israel, Australia, South Africa, Iran, Malaysia and i believe Aruba (could be wrong there) which then would represent ALL six continents in the world. So your arguments are out the window. Toulouse (now paris) is the true WORLD cup
 

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I think we've done a wonderful job of promoting the WPL and keeping the issue front and center for a few days. You're welcome, Milt. ;)
And, you know, normally I wouldn't do this--oh, who am I kidding?--this is exactly the sort of thing I do--I gotta say this might have all gone down better but I can't help recalling one or another PA controversy from last year where it seems the opposite tack was used and the argument against the PA Championship was that the best of Britain's teams weren't participating thus invalidating the claim to be UK Champ or All-England Big Cheese or whatever it was despite the fact the league had a widely diverse and representative playing base. :D

I bring this up for a couple of reasons. 1--it helps keep Robo sharp and I'm just that helpful kinda guy. :) 2--it's still the slow season and I feel an obligation to our regular members to help keep them entertained.
 

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Originally posted by crazzzy
Well Chicago, Toulouse actually has had teams from Israel, Australia, South Africa, Iran, Malaysia and i believe Aruba (could be wrong there) which then would represent ALL six continents in the world. So your arguments are out the window. Toulouse (now paris) is the true WORLD cup

Crazzzy, I did say there were a few other teams that I had forgotten that were attending the Toulouse World 7 Man and thank heaven you stepped in with further clarification as to why the 7 man should be viewed as a lot more credible in terms of true 'world' representation than the wpl.
It reallly does make a mockery of Chicago, ChuckC and Milt's assertions, still I have no sympathy for such people in that they know the hammer's comin' and blind stupidity and pig-headedness keeps them from jumping outa the way....
I jus luuuuurve when it goes 'thhhhhwaaack' right in their nuts......dammn, that's gotta hurt the pride...but will they ever learn?
Ya bet ya bottom dollar they won't :)
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I am not a Brockdorffian and have never been a Brockdorffian

Originally posted by Baca Loco
I think we've done a wonderful job of promoting the WPL and keeping the issue front and center for a few days. You're welcome, Milt. ;)
And, you know, normally I wouldn't do this--oh, who am I kidding?--this is exactly the sort of thing I do--I gotta say this might have all gone down better but I can't help recalling one or another PA controversy from last year where it seems the opposite tack was used and the argument against the PA Championship was that the best of Britain's teams weren't participating thus invalidating the claim to be UK Champ or All-England Big Cheese or whatever it was despite the fact the league had a widely diverse and representative playing base. :D

I bring this up for a couple of reasons. 1--it helps keep Robo sharp and I'm just that helpful kinda guy. :) 2--it's still the slow season and I feel an obligation to our regular members to help keep them entertained.
You are the true master of micro-distortion giving rise to a macro-point, bejeeezus Baca, I fully realise your tactics and believe me I do appreciate the skill involved but puurllleease, I ain't no Milt or ChuckC in that my brain does manage to function a few clicks above that of a moron's.

The descriptive of 'best' being used as a tag for the eventual winners of the PA is not the same argument as disputing the meaning of the word 'world' and its consequent relevance as you well know Monsieur Cow.
And so, it is no use me arguing with oranges against your apples :)

PS I will call u now re that PM U sent, I have the answers you seek :)
 

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Just to be clear, I'm not defending WPL's legitimate claim to the title World as being valid in any manner other than typical American arrogance. Maybe Milt aspires to be a world league and has just gotten ahead of himself with the naming.

BUT, I don't think there's much distinction between WPL and 7-man World Cup.

That's just my opinion. Of course it's the right opinion, but I don't expect lesser mortals to always understand that.

:)