Whats with all the rude behaviour
- Thread starter Roulette
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cheers parksy nice to see someone with the same sentiments, sumo you were being a wee bit of hypocrite though as you posted an inappropriate & offensive post about the offender in discussion
Wait- paintballers have started complaining about paintball stuff being too expensive? When did this start up?
I say buyer beware. I know that there are some who would disagree with me, but resale prices are so low that to me, there seems to be little point in selling a gun these days.
It is nice to look out for little 'uns, but that's what friends are for. Strangers on the internet are for scamming money and making fun.
I say buyer beware. I know that there are some who would disagree with me, but resale prices are so low that to me, there seems to be little point in selling a gun these days.
It is nice to look out for little 'uns, but that's what friends are for. Strangers on the internet are for scamming money and making fun.
Personly i see forums as a free exchange of information, if i think someone is conning a newb, I'll say so. You might say its not my business. If someone was advising a newb to lube their marker with a mix of sand and cooking oil, i'd say something, thats not my business either. But i don't want to see someone have a bad experience of paintball and be put off, when they could go on to be the next ollie lang. And they could be equally put off by being ripped off.
For example, I have in the past posted links to online shops where items are for sale cheaper, first hand, than in the thread.
Having said that i'd only comment if i thought it was being significantly over-priced (20-25% plus) i wouldn't interfere with minor haggleing.
For example, I have in the past posted links to online shops where items are for sale cheaper, first hand, than in the thread.
Having said that i'd only comment if i thought it was being significantly over-priced (20-25% plus) i wouldn't interfere with minor haggleing.
I personally think that unless it's your thread then you should butt out. Plain and simple.
Everyone has the search button, it's not hard to find out what price things go for, and if you post "Thats too high, they go for 200" then your part of a bigger problem which is price fixing.
Take A4Flys for instance, if you make them all the same price, then the only person who's going to make a sale is the person that go's lower. That sets a new level, then idiots start posting..."but they go for 25 less then that" So down the prices go again, again and again, until they get to a point where it's impossible to sell a nice marker for even a reasonable price.
If you don't agree, then please just keep that crap off my sales threads.
Everyone has the search button, it's not hard to find out what price things go for, and if you post "Thats too high, they go for 200" then your part of a bigger problem which is price fixing.
Take A4Flys for instance, if you make them all the same price, then the only person who's going to make a sale is the person that go's lower. That sets a new level, then idiots start posting..."but they go for 25 less then that" So down the prices go again, again and again, until they get to a point where it's impossible to sell a nice marker for even a reasonable price.
If you don't agree, then please just keep that crap off my sales threads.
I do agree with the idea that these forums are for free exchange of information. I also don't like to see a newb get bilked.
At the same time, a buyer is looking for his best price and a seller for his. A buyer can, as Nickyboy says, shop around. In fact, it is dumb not to, whether you are buying in a classified section of a forum or at a retail shop. Those who don't take time to get a sense of what a fair price is take their chances.
Of course, if I were selling a gun and I felt it were worth $500, I wouldn't be bothered about waiting for the right buyer. If it were a used Spyder, I might be waiting a while. I would be very annoyed if some jerk came into my thread to sour any potential sale, particularly if I had the gun on offer for a long time.
Value in paintball is largely about perception. None of these things are anything but luxury items. A lot of the value of a lot of guns is in prestige, anyway.
I wouldn't go into a store where I felt the prices were too high and start loudly denouncing the prices. That would be rude. I would avoid the place, and I would probably tell my friends I thought it was too expensive.
At the same time, a buyer is looking for his best price and a seller for his. A buyer can, as Nickyboy says, shop around. In fact, it is dumb not to, whether you are buying in a classified section of a forum or at a retail shop. Those who don't take time to get a sense of what a fair price is take their chances.
Of course, if I were selling a gun and I felt it were worth $500, I wouldn't be bothered about waiting for the right buyer. If it were a used Spyder, I might be waiting a while. I would be very annoyed if some jerk came into my thread to sour any potential sale, particularly if I had the gun on offer for a long time.
Value in paintball is largely about perception. None of these things are anything but luxury items. A lot of the value of a lot of guns is in prestige, anyway.
I wouldn't go into a store where I felt the prices were too high and start loudly denouncing the prices. That would be rude. I would avoid the place, and I would probably tell my friends I thought it was too expensive.
i agree with this
as a supposed 'community' of paintballers, we should be helping other players out, as opposed to this;
If someone wants to try selling their marker for a high price let them. If it's too high it won't sell. Don't go jacking their thread telling them the price is too high because you saw someone sell something similar for lower.
So people want a quick sale so put their prices low. You think the price is too high....wait for one of these peeps to come along and get a steal.
-EDD
So people want a quick sale so put their prices low. You think the price is too high....wait for one of these peeps to come along and get a steal.
-EDD
Coombzy, that comment was intended as a joke that illustrated common sense regarding people you encounter online and the caution one should observe. If you want to think of this as a community, fine, but in a physical community, there is not anywhere near the anonymity that exists on an internet forum.
You go ahead and help people out. Remember that when you help out one of two people who are discussing a trade or purchase, you are also opposing the one you are not helping. So it isn't as simple as "I will be helpful and nice", since someone is the getting the business end of your assistance.
I hope everyone here remembers this discussion when they go to sell something and some unconcerned third party starts shouting out what a crook you are to want a third of what you paid for something.
The question was about whether it is rude to intrude on someone's classified to announce that you think the price should be lower. Well of course it is, even if you are right. It is completely within your rights to do this rude thing, since the seller is electing to place a classified on a forum, but it is still not very considerate of the seller. There are all sorts of reasons to ask for one price or another. If you don't want to buy something because you think it is over priced, don't. If you want to warn your friend who has asked you for advice, fine. But if you have no interest in an exchange, it is intrusive to proffer an opinion. What is worth $5 to me might well be worth $10 to you. Prices of used equipment are personal assessments.
You go ahead and help people out. Remember that when you help out one of two people who are discussing a trade or purchase, you are also opposing the one you are not helping. So it isn't as simple as "I will be helpful and nice", since someone is the getting the business end of your assistance.
I hope everyone here remembers this discussion when they go to sell something and some unconcerned third party starts shouting out what a crook you are to want a third of what you paid for something.
The question was about whether it is rude to intrude on someone's classified to announce that you think the price should be lower. Well of course it is, even if you are right. It is completely within your rights to do this rude thing, since the seller is electing to place a classified on a forum, but it is still not very considerate of the seller. There are all sorts of reasons to ask for one price or another. If you don't want to buy something because you think it is over priced, don't. If you want to warn your friend who has asked you for advice, fine. But if you have no interest in an exchange, it is intrusive to proffer an opinion. What is worth $5 to me might well be worth $10 to you. Prices of used equipment are personal assessments.