WDP not teching at Millenniums now?
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It doesnt seem directed particularly at WDP or condemning of their actions, though admittedly there seems to be just a touch of venom in the final paragraph.
Hmm - I have rethought this issue actually.
Where as it seemed fair to me at first, that all manufacturers should get to tech guns at events for free.... I have now looked at it from the MS perspective, and come to think of it... why should the MS allow a commercial venture to support their customers, at events that they are not particularly interested in supporting through sponsoring?
Seems a bit of quid pro quo should apply here.... as it is ultimately the manufacturers who gain increased sales, by being able to offer their customers support at events.
For players that attend MS events regularly, it is absolutely an important factor that they can get support at the events, so obvisouly, having a tech booth will affect sales.
I don't know if "Platinum" is the right level to be at, to justify getting a tech booth at events.... but I retract my earlier statement that any manufacturer should get a tech booth for free.
Nick
Where as it seemed fair to me at first, that all manufacturers should get to tech guns at events for free.... I have now looked at it from the MS perspective, and come to think of it... why should the MS allow a commercial venture to support their customers, at events that they are not particularly interested in supporting through sponsoring?
Seems a bit of quid pro quo should apply here.... as it is ultimately the manufacturers who gain increased sales, by being able to offer their customers support at events.
For players that attend MS events regularly, it is absolutely an important factor that they can get support at the events, so obvisouly, having a tech booth will affect sales.
I don't know if "Platinum" is the right level to be at, to justify getting a tech booth at events.... but I retract my earlier statement that any manufacturer should get a tech booth for free.
Nick
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How is pure teching and customer back-up a commerical venture?Nick Brockdorff said:
If they want to sell something then fair enough, but a tech booth to support players/teams who have purchased one of your guns is not a commercial venture, it is a cost to the manufacturer.
If the manufacturers are forced to pay twice, in effect, then the only impact I see is team sponsorships getting cut - is that what you want?
It's a service. When you buy the marker you are not only buying the physical product but the knowledge of the service that comes with it. It is not the Milleniums job to accomadate a desire to provide that service at no charge except to encourage teams to come and play their events.
The simple formula for the organiser is loss of fees from teams not entering must be less than the income earned from the chg for tech stands. Market conditions should ensure the tech stands are not overvalued as if they all refuse to pay the loss of entry fees due to this would be greater than the income gained so they will reduce the fee until things level out again.
Ofcourse Duffy
But, look at it this way:
When you buy a new car, it is absolutely a concern where and at what cost you can get it repaired if/when something goes wrong, and as such a unique selling point for the manufacturer/dealer.... if it wasn't, car manufacturers would not provide the service or advertise it as they do.
Same applies here... providing teching at MS events is something that increases sales for manufacturers, and as such a service thet will ultimately make them money.
If it didn't increase sales for the manufacturers - they would not be providing the service... simple as that
Seen from the perspective of the MS, why should they allow manufacturers to provide that service for nothing? - I mean... it's not like it makes a difference to the MS... people can just buy the guns they CAN get teched, if it is an important issue to them.
Nick
But, look at it this way:
When you buy a new car, it is absolutely a concern where and at what cost you can get it repaired if/when something goes wrong, and as such a unique selling point for the manufacturer/dealer.... if it wasn't, car manufacturers would not provide the service or advertise it as they do.
Same applies here... providing teching at MS events is something that increases sales for manufacturers, and as such a service thet will ultimately make them money.
If it didn't increase sales for the manufacturers - they would not be providing the service... simple as that
Seen from the perspective of the MS, why should they allow manufacturers to provide that service for nothing? - I mean... it's not like it makes a difference to the MS... people can just buy the guns they CAN get teched, if it is an important issue to them.
Nick
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No, you're buying a marker...show me the warranty that says 'We will be on hand to tech at X,Y and Z events'.Iron Lions - Ed said:
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You are stood on the top of a slippery slope and staring down it...Nick Brockdorff said:Ofcourse Duffy
But, look at it this way:
When you buy a new car, it is absolutely a concern where and at what cost you can get it repaired if/when something goes wrong, and as such a unique selling point for the manufacturer/dealer.... if it wasn't, car manufacturers would not provide the service or advertise it as they do.
Same applies here... providing teching at MS events is something that increases sales for manufacturers, and as such a service thet will ultimately make them money.
If it didn't increase sales for the manufacturers - they would not be providing the service... simple as that
Seen from the perspective of the MS, why should they allow manufacturers to provide that service for nothing? - I mean... it's not like it makes a difference to the MS... people can just buy the guns they CAN get teched, if it is an important issue to them.
Nick
Nick Brockdorff said:
How about for the benefit of their major revenue stream....thier paying customer, the players?
Players pay a huge amount of money to buy these markers and to have it go down and not able to repair it is absurd especially when you look at many other sports where there are no such financial restrictions of practice.
An integral part of playing is the marker and as such, I think the Board should be sympathetic to the poor bastid who has worked for months to buy his marker and when it goes wrong, he should be able to get it fixed.
Duff actually predicted all this a few year's back in a telephone conversation he had with Niall where he was commenting upon the thin end of the wedge when the Millennium decided to restrict paint usage by teams to sponsors which i think is also absurd and certainly smacks of self interest to the detriment of the player.
I understand the mechanics of it in that Del boy operators were selling paint out the back of their car in nearby car parks but are we in the industry that knife edged where some cheap ass fool selling paint in this way compromises sales to that degree?
Nah, we ain't got to that state yet.
I agree with Duff, we are on a slope looking downward !
Maybe.... I just mean that this is not a black and white issue afterall.
The MS should get something out of allowing companies to support their customers at their events... and the companies should probably not be required to be Platinum sponsors to do so.
There - did I just piss everyone off?
Nick
The MS should get something out of allowing companies to support their customers at their events... and the companies should probably not be required to be Platinum sponsors to do so.
There - did I just piss everyone off?
Nick