If you mean "grounds", scary very scary but at least its a way of showing we are educating potential players for a sport, with a club basis comes a better angle to show we care and are professional.
Maybe an angle working with offenders, or even showing the potential of what we could become is a way forward.
I know this I am beginning to lose faith in it all, everybody wants it cheap and some people want to cash in on gimmicks, and can't be bothered with the lets think about the players and let them have there say.
Well After building scenes like an adventure park for a paintball site in the midlands, you begin to realise that the game is for enjoyment as well as competition.
Back to the grass routes, safegaurd us all and even bring in a control board of members in this country using the UKPSF as backing and hold proper meetings, letting every team or players
have there say.
Like the MM commitee possibly!
Maybe an angle working with offenders, or even showing the potential of what we could become is a way forward.
I know this I am beginning to lose faith in it all, everybody wants it cheap and some people want to cash in on gimmicks, and can't be bothered with the lets think about the players and let them have there say.
Well After building scenes like an adventure park for a paintball site in the midlands, you begin to realise that the game is for enjoyment as well as competition.
Back to the grass routes, safegaurd us all and even bring in a control board of members in this country using the UKPSF as backing and hold proper meetings, letting every team or players
have there say.
Like the MM commitee possibly!
Yer I know, Im still here had to have one last look 
na he does mean training rounds, like Reball on this site (bottom of page) http://www.face-full.com/gears.php?t=2
solid rubber rounds used for training with targets or for use during a game. They appear to have been tested quite thoroughly so obviously they are safe but to a non player it might seem a little dangerous.
I think solid rounds will be harder to explain away if our markers classification becomes an issue, also will be less easy to differentiate from ball bearing guns etc etc.
whereas actual paintballs that burst upon impact dont seem such a threat, or dont sound dangerous to someone not in the sport, but solid rubber sounds more dangerous, and more painful.
the police use rubber bullets and these can break your bones or even cause death, there could be negative connections to this: as thats what i think of when i see them.
na he does mean training rounds, like Reball on this site (bottom of page) http://www.face-full.com/gears.php?t=2
solid rubber rounds used for training with targets or for use during a game. They appear to have been tested quite thoroughly so obviously they are safe but to a non player it might seem a little dangerous.
I think solid rounds will be harder to explain away if our markers classification becomes an issue, also will be less easy to differentiate from ball bearing guns etc etc.
whereas actual paintballs that burst upon impact dont seem such a threat, or dont sound dangerous to someone not in the sport, but solid rubber sounds more dangerous, and more painful.
the police use rubber bullets and these can break your bones or even cause death, there could be negative connections to this: as thats what i think of when i see them.
As paintball players, most of our markers look as remote from a firearm as design and function allow, we are for the time being, reasonably safe from this bill. Talking to our local MP may bring unwanted attention that we do not need at present. It only takes one MP with narrow vision to put a spanner in the works.
Agreed that some markers in black that are primarily designed for scenario players and the RAM fans are really treading on shakey ground at the moment, but if said MP's see those markers and just generalise all paintball markers as replicas, we are potentially shafted with large broom.
Airsofters have the most to lose, so sadly we must distance ourselves from them, some of the airsoft markers, although superbly made, look to real, and thats it they just have to look real, we all know the result of being hit by a small plastic ball, but its not the argument being used by T. Blair & Co.
On this issue, let the airsofters and RAM groups fight their own battle, sad I know, but lets at least try and keep one of our pastimes/hobbies/sport out of this political punchbag of a bill.
Lets keep our noses clean in the meantime, sort out the other issues we have re modes/reball internally, and carry on what we all love doing with our weekends!
Agreed that some markers in black that are primarily designed for scenario players and the RAM fans are really treading on shakey ground at the moment, but if said MP's see those markers and just generalise all paintball markers as replicas, we are potentially shafted with large broom.
Airsofters have the most to lose, so sadly we must distance ourselves from them, some of the airsoft markers, although superbly made, look to real, and thats it they just have to look real, we all know the result of being hit by a small plastic ball, but its not the argument being used by T. Blair & Co.
On this issue, let the airsofters and RAM groups fight their own battle, sad I know, but lets at least try and keep one of our pastimes/hobbies/sport out of this political punchbag of a bill.
Lets keep our noses clean in the meantime, sort out the other issues we have re modes/reball internally, and carry on what we all love doing with our weekends!
I know the law around here is that airsoft guns must have a safety orange colored tip to the muzzle, so as to alert police to the fact that it is not a regualr gun. If that orange muzzle is not present, police will assume it is a real gun. This alters the experience of running into the poice a tad, and around here, it would be considered a stupid risk (Denver police have made some tragic errors).
Why would the obvious highly visible marking option not work? Isn't it time you guys got a working democracy going in the UK? The fatalism with which the British regard the government always surprizes me.
Why would the obvious highly visible marking option not work? Isn't it time you guys got a working democracy going in the UK? The fatalism with which the British regard the government always surprizes me.
2 reasons why this wouldn't work in the UK. Firstly, what's to stop the people with real guns putting the same marking on them? And secondly, this isn't just about whether the police can recognise them as not being a regular gun, it's so the general public aren't worried about something that looks like a real gun - never underestimate the stupidity of the general public!
I agree with your points, but what is the confusion over the replicas?
I've heard from someone I know, you can convert one in less then ten minutes to fire real 9mm's. The confusion is, in my eyes, why the didn't stop them a long time ago.
If you coming from the states buddy thats a bit rich. If you are, isn't it time you's went back to a democracy?
He he, I much prefer fatalism to complete denial anyway.
The orange tip thing? How does that work? Honour system...... criminals may well shoot at police officers, but god forbid they would stoop so low as painting the end of a gun orange.
Don't advertise the fact though........ it's paving the way for an invasion....... 1000's of tanks roll on Washington and no-one realises because they've all put a coat of "Spring sunrise orange" on their barrels.
Actually, just realised...... if you have a truely fair democratic process...... you deliberately elected GW? Dear god.
The orange tip thing? How does that work? Honour system...... criminals may well shoot at police officers, but god forbid they would stoop so low as painting the end of a gun orange.
Don't advertise the fact though........ it's paving the way for an invasion....... 1000's of tanks roll on Washington and no-one realises because they've all put a coat of "Spring sunrise orange" on their barrels.
Actually, just realised...... if you have a truely fair democratic process...... you deliberately elected GW? Dear god.
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The only thing is- it isn't true. Thanks a lot for proving my point how the media can mislead us with impunity though. There have been a few blank firers around that were built in ex weapons factories and could, with some work, be converted into a firearm if you didn't mind risking blowing your hand off. If you've ever held an airsoft gun or similar you'd know the thought of converting a plastic gun that fires plastic pellets using an ickle spring into any kind of firearm is laughable, but this is the idea the papers are currently selling, and it seems people are buying it
Most of the replicas being targeted by this bill can never be converted into anything deadly, including the scenario markers and RAM markers that bring paintball into the picture whether we like it or not.