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Iron Lions - Ed

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5th of Feb and a second Press Release has been put up.

http://www.millennium-series.com/MS05PressRelease-2.pdf

Two things that caught my eye on first glance are a 15BPS cap and the statement,

Furthermore we have decided not to increase the entry fees. We are increasing quality for same price.
a couple of lines down,

In order to have worlwide harmonisation....we have decided to reduce the number of prelim games from 10 to 8
So a 20% reduction in games played for the same price for the majority of teams....

EDIT: Also with 8 games this is as many as we could play in a one day tournie. Now with finals etc and the number of team taking part I can still see why 3 days will be needed to get them all in but could they schedule it so a team does all 8 qualifiers in one day rather than 4 each day? That or increase the amount of people who go through from prelims to have a larger knock out stage.
 

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Theres always acatch when someone says that the entry fee wont be increased :rolleyes: tho i agree with you ed when you say we can play 8 games in one day and play the finals are they gonna reduce the the amount of days for the events does kind of seem stupid to hold it over 3 days now when you could easily do the event now over 2 days thus saving teams money in hotel fees and the like but the point is will they :(
 

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15 bps cap

Hmmm... Did the boat leave and I wasn't on it?? I mean is every gun upgradeable? How do every team get their gun legal? DM4, Dm5, Timmy's and what not. Where do we go? Is there a max ROF setting on my E2? New chip? Or didn't I read the complete thread?

More gasoline to the bonfire!!!

T.
 

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8 games! That just blows, and the excuse for it is even worse :mad:

That's like one half of an X-ball game, not to mention the nice wait between the games :eek:
 

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Originally posted by Sherman
8 games! That just blows...
To put this into perspective, NPPL also has eight games in the prelims and their entry fees are substantially higher:

NPPL pro: €1976
Mill pro: €1500

NPPL Div 1: €1454
Mill Div 1: €1200

NPPL Div 2: €1305
Mill Div 2: €1000

NPPL Div 3: €1081
Mill Div 3: €900
 

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Originally posted by Wadidiz
To put this into perspective, NPPL also has eight games in the prelims and their entry fees are substantially higher:
So? What does Millennium has to do with NPPL? That's right, nothing!

It's two games less, plain and simple.
 

Iron Lions - Ed

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I don't mind the reduction in prelim games as long as those games are returned elsewhere. e.g More teams qualify from prelims so you still have a chance to play them. This way harmony with prelims are reached with most teams still getting their 10 games or more.

But at the moment and I admit this is a cynical statement it could be looked at as,

We are giving you less events, less games per event(which is effectively a price increase), less choice (no X-ball or 5-man), we are not affiliating with NPPL and its all so you the players get better paintball. Huh
Quoted from IL website.
 

Wadidiz

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Originally posted by Sherman
So? What does Millennium has to do with NPPL? That's right, nothing!
I don't call a directly comparable product, namely the NPPL, nothing. Most people talk about how great the NPPL is and there are several Euro teams that plan to participate there this season.

But you're right that it is two games less than last year.
 

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About the 15 bps cap.

Just my point a view, but almost everybody is going to have a cheater board on their marker with this enforcement. How? Simple, almost every board of every ACEd marker as programable rate of fire with the eye system off. Everybody will do the easy way of getting their marker legal, just shut the eye off, and set the rof for 15 bps, and everybody on the field now as a possible cheater board that they may turn on and off with a small push of a button, the perfectly legal eye on/off button.
DM's have one, Matrix's have one, Angels 'have one', don't know about the timmy's and cockers, but I image that they have a fast way of turnning the eye on and off.

And I don't expect to see a ref pulling a marker during gameplay based on noise to check for a normal legal eye system on, that as no rof cap on it.
It might no be a huge problem, but it is a big possible loop hole for the refs to deal with.

EDIT: And no, we didn't pull guns for going over the noise or rate of fire during gameplay on the nxl because we really didn't controled them during gameplay, if we had a suspicion we would 'investigate' in the timeout, besides that we just checked the guns prior to game start and almost every timeouts.

And just a small technical thing, but I've read that the red chronos reading on ROF is not acurate so everyone better start buying those small boxes for ballistic reading, because you can't really rely on the marker boards, for a precise rof.


10 vs 8 games. (The storys I've heard about the 6 vs 8 games on USA, nobody with think that is easier to cut down games.)
That's a normal choice of evolution, not a very good one on everybodys agenda...

No online ID's or pre-register?
That's bad we saved a lot of time with this.

Just an opinion that I'll voice it out to the right people, when the time comes.

Jaime.
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