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Mario

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Originally posted by lettucecheesecake
im not diggin at all mate trust me. i wish i could play half as well as you guys. and as x ball goes its the big thing now 7 man is shadowed by it. peace.
i'd disagree with that. I think that yea X-ball is big but 7 man in the states is bigger, with news coverage and PP doing an awesome job in pronmotion.....i'd say they are on a par at the moment, with x-ball looking a bit unsteady cause of recent events....


Parksy only now after so long have i seen what your avatar actually is, and i must say it rocks... :D
 

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Originally posted by lettucecheesecake
as x ball goes its the big thing now 7 man is shadowed by it.
Something tells me that you have never been to an NPPL then...?;)

The way that they (Pure Promotions) run their show blows XBall out of the water at the moment. I dont think that there will actually be any Xball next year, which is a shame, but thats another story.

This thread actually made me laugh. At the moment i would say that the Tigers are the best Xball squad, but Nexus are undoubtedly the best 7 man team. In a few months, maybe in a few months all will change, but right now, nexus are at the top, and nobody can deny that. I think that the reason that there is a discrepancy between the two top teams in the differing formats is that both require slightly different approaches, and neither team has quite mastered both yet. Nexus have 7 man locked up, and the tigers have nailed Xball.
 

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leetucecheesecake, let me explain something here and it's best done in this way, why didn't you ask the question, 'Joy Division in PGI'?

Now, the Legion are undisputed kings of the XBall pile, the rest of us are just scrambling for the crumbs of minor places and who the heck cares about 2nd place onwards anyway, apart from of course the 2nd place onward people.

The Russians basically clean up in this department, and so they should, they deserve it.
Joy Division are the next best XBall team and so on down the line....you get my point I hope, the Tigers are just another team who play XBall behind the Russkies.
Now, you can well ask why Nexus get so much publicity when compared to somebody like the Tigers, or more importantly, Joy.

It's all to do with marketing and promo. Dye, Planet, PMI and PGI all use Nexus in their marketing strategies because they all sponsor Nexus.
And why do they sponsor Nexus?
Because, Nexus are marketable in many ways not least of which, all these companies recognise Nexus as an international team that plays and proves itself in both XBall and more importantly at the moment, the NPPL in the US.
Nexus has a brand image that works for us and our sponsors...end of.
This image didn't happen on its own, both Ledz and myself have worked extremely hard in creating it.
We have a Nexus EBlade, a Nexus range of clothing and so on...you can't frikkin moan at me or anybody else on PGI because the Tigers don't know how to market themselves or their sponsors don't wanna use them in their ads.

The Tigers are not used by their sponsors in advertising (you will have to ask their sponsors why not and not me) and do not play the NPPL, these are two hugely important reasons why you don't see them as much as Nexus in the magazines.

The Tigers, or anybody else for that matter, can do the same if they feel if they have the vehicle for such promotion.
The Tigers aren't world wide known I'm afraid, sponsors want teams to represent them who are known in the US (as well as Europe) and can do a professional job in representing them both on the field and off.
As Sam has already observed, the NPPL is huge compared to the EXL. The EXL ain't even in the same ballpark, it's small time and when the Tigers make it in the big time (the NPPL) then they, like anybody else in the big time, will get thier due exposure..understand??
Contrary to what a lot of people would have you believe, I do not select the pics for PGI, I do sometimes for my article, but hey, who the hell are you to tell me what pics to use and what not to use for my article?
If you are referring to random pics used in PGI, then we are hostage to whatever pics are sent in.
Photographers are basically a law unto themselves, they take pics of whoever they feel is gonna get the best shot, if the Tigers, or anybody else for that matter had a great and useable pic of them, believe me, we would use it, I HAVE NEVER TOLD ANYBODY ON PGI NOT TO USE A TIGERS PIC !!!!!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT????
If the Tigers wanna get themselves in the mag more, go play in the US and qualify for Sunday clubs, promote themselves at every opportunity they can, get their sponsors to use them in ads and so on, it ain't my fault they don't and please don't ask me to start putting them in because they beat Nexus at XBall a couple of times, there are a few more teams ahead of them in that department and they gotta do a whole lot more than that.
We have proved ourselves internationally, we have done and invested in our apprenticeship, if they, or anybody else wants the accolades, let them do what we have done but in the meantime, I am gonna go find some pics of Joy Division, Ton Tons or Legion, these guys have all done the work !!
Now I have no idea who you are or who put you up to this thread, but make no mistake about it, it is obvious you were put up to it; this kinda schoolground strategy is gonna get you guys nowhere.
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Originally posted by Tommy Gun-Nexus
Nice dig fella..


Tigers have beaten us twice at XBall and they are currently the better team at it. Everyone knows that! Then again we've beaten them 9 out of 10 times in 7-man.
Companys such as Dye, Eclipse and PMI choose to advertise us using their top products, that we are very gratefull for. Should they pull all advertisements because they beat us twice at XBall? Dumbass..

Why are you trying to insult us instead of just asking a simple question?

Peace,

Tommy
Hi Tommy see you in Toulouse?

please God without wanting to start one of those tiger vs nexus things that used to happen (i am as guilty as the rest). We have beaten you twice in XBall and you have beaten us twice in competative 7 man both times real close games, training games can't count - your field that you had played on the day before we arrived.

Robbo said a while ago, and I'll be very carefull to try and be accurate as I'm sure you'll answer this Pete :0), that XBall gives the the true better team (at the time) because of the number of games involved and less is left to chance. Not that any of your wins have been chance, but of pure hard graft.


lettucecheesecake

As mario said Nexus = PGI sponsored, Tigers = not. If we have a vehicle as powerfull as PGI to promote our other sponsors we would use in exactly the same way!

7 man is bigger in the states because Pure Promotions have got the organisation sorted good and proper. The XBall format is without question the future but the organisation around is sadly lacking. What would be very, very sweet is Pure Promotions running an XBall series!!!!!!!!

Peace
 

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Hi Pete,

we haven't put anyone up to asking this question - honest. I think lettucecheesecake wants more English involvement because PGI is created in England. Quite apt at the moment - bring on Portugal 3-1 to the Engerland!
 

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Gareth, you know what mate.....I was gonna answer ure post with a rebuttal but I can't honestly be bothered anymore but I will tell you this much, whoever is orchestrating all this cr@p is a buffoon because it's gonna be a classic case of you guys orchestrating a self fulfilling prophecy...I hope you understand this much because I am sick and tired of it all.

Addendum : : Gareth people do not arbitrarily put that sorta post in mate, he even manages to dig me out and implies it is all my fault Tigers don't get in, its way too transparent !!!!!
 

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It's threads like these that can spoil the love for UK ball that was even evident to a "bloody furriner" like myself at X-Ball in Amsterdam. It was great to see Nexus root for the Tigers, Tigers helping out Shockwave, Shockwave pitting for Nexus and all possible versions of the above. But keep this up and there will never be any of that again.

So I guess the cheesecake refers to the contents of your cranial cavity...:rolleyes:
 

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Bud, good point mate and one that hasn't escaped both msyelf and Gareth as we have just both talked on the phone and I think without his intervention, this would most certainly have spiralled.

He has assured me, and I believe him, that this is not some team orchestrated attack but I do believe certain individuals have taken it upon themsleves to attack me, PGI and Nexus for whatever reasons they deemed fit, of that much, I am sure.

Neither team wants aggravation, it serves no purpose other than to alientate.
I do now believe these attacks will stop and therefore peace and sanity can return........ I need peace :)
Cheers Gareth !
 
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Originally posted by lettucecheesecake
im not diggin at all mate trust me. i wish i could play half as well as you guys. and as x ball goes its the big thing now 7 man is shadowed by it. and thats not even answering my question why are they not in there? im not on about advretising but i want to read about other teams tactics etc,and the tigers seem to be on the ball. peace
Tigers tactics? Alan Smith has done something for us about Tigers training drills and a few other bits and pieces, but he's not a regular writer on PGI - none of the Tigers are - which is why you won't see many articles about their tactics. You'll see lots about XSV's - cos Micah M writes for us; lots about Infamous's - cos Travis L writes for us; and lots about Nexus - cos Robbo writes for us.

See a pattern?

And if any of those people went to play for Tigers you'd read a lot about the Tigers tactics - we pick our writers by virtue of their writing ability, not their team, as do all the other mags.

As for Tigers featuring in the magazine - one of the Tigers is one of our 4 'Players to watch' this month. Dunno if there are any pics of them - haven't checked - but I noticed a huge one of Shockwave...why? Cos it's a good picture...that tends to be our criteria for image selection, how good an image is rather than who it's of.

Ant informs me that he got some good Tigers shots in Amsterdam, some of which are already at the design studio for consideration for next issue. There are probably a few of Team Butt**** from Iowa too, just cos Aaron got some good shots of them at the last NPPL...

Something else Nexus tend to do is to give us reams and reams of images for free and say 'Use these if you want them'...publishers like that. Being cheapskates, it means we have to spend less on photography...sending in a sheet of good slides or a CD of images with captions on is a hell of a way to guarantee free publicity (and a way I can save money...that's a hint to everyone).