The Millennium Series - what a joke!

[shoaibaktar]

I have to disagree with the ,this is for new sites that wont happen idea Biscuit.What Nick is advocating has happened in Basildon .Mark is not the site owner who runs a woods rental site nearby has built a ;ironing board flat (clean) all weather fully netted with all the trimmings,flield solely for sup air at the Action Park site I watched the MPL Winter Series there,and teams trainig there .Players moan ,its not as cheap as Bricket,but they have to get back their investment,besides it still gets a good usage.So he can host competition he is planning a second field.Mark and Combat UK deserve a big thumbs up for a long term view of their business and this sport .Anyone who,s been there has approved it .So yes Nick it can and does happen,and we needto support these initiatives for the long term of our sport

 

[Biscuit]

shoa i agree with what you and nick are saying,but this can not be done at all sites ,it depends on the geographics of the site ,now i would say the further down south with in the uk you are going to have flatter land suitable for sup air fields.
the further up north you go you tend too have sites in woods on the side of a hill which is not suitable for sup-air fields,so this all come down too land.
now my thoughts are we need this too cover all sites not just the ones fortunate too have an area suitable for sup-air.
so to do this we need a hybrid format and field structure.
sometime we have too go backwards too go forwards ,it is alright if we could say get 20 fields doing sup-air but wouldn`t it be better if all fields were part of it,we need 100 fields involved.
when you think back too the birth of sup-air we came out of the woods and played hyperball ,but for years there was a cross over between both,sites had teams now how many teams are connected too sites

 

[NickBrockdorff]

Paintball in the woods will never be considered sport in a broader sense.

So, if we want to stay a sport, we have to live with the fact that some site owners can't run airball fields.

It will still be an improvement to today, where many that can run such fields, do not

 

[shoaibaktar]

Is the meeting point ,these hyperball fields then ?? the step back to go forward.The format to bridge woods to tournie ,that both recognise . I raced bikes for 5 years and Silverstone is flat long,fast Brands is hilly,windy slower. So each field would not necessarily need to be identical and cheaper to run .You could then run a series in your area .You,ve both seen the sport go past the time when these should have already been a step up to today ,so maybe there is something Im missing

 

[NickBrockdorff]

Nope, airball it is - we have to accept that. The lack of modularity and flexibility in anything else on the market today or in the past, makes it pointless.

Yes, some field owners won't be able to run an airball field, which is fine, they can go on promoting woodland style games and make good business doing that.

It's inconsequential in the larger scheme of things.

What IS important, is to have a low cost entry level game format, that allows those fields that do run airball fields, to put rental groups on them... and in turn for more fields to see the concept as a viable business, and build airball fields.

 

[Biscuit]

unfortunately for us we have a generation of kids growing up with things like cod ,so they naturally want too play woodsball/scenario type games.especially on the site i work at ,the first thing a young kid asks is what map are we playing on.also if you look at the uk market the scenario scene is booming,so what are these guys doing right,they are giving people what they want.
so my idea would be too work with sites at setting up walkons ,then 5man woodland tournies on speedball style fields running at low rof limits,tie this in with support from sup-air tournie organisers with prizes like free entry for teams that win a leg of the woodsball tournie,just throwing up airball fields is not going too work at grassroot level,people have this concept of paintball as rambo in the woods so why not use this too our advantage instead of running away from our past embrass it,then educate players ,if you just put rental players on a sup air field they won`t get it.
the players that you are trying too convert are the ones that have got the bug not the ones that may only try ball once at a party.the average punter just does not get sup-air why do you think sites have not already tried it if they thought they were going to make money out of it they would be doing it

 

[onasilverbike]

Historically many sites that did have a Sup'Air field attached have let them fall by the wayside with lack of interest and the costs of maintenance and running them. Most though do have some type of speedball field with less high maintenance barricades. What Mark and Dave Stewart are doing at the Combat UK field at Action Park Basildon is probably, theoretically, an even better way to promote the 'sport' side of paintball, being, as it is, surrounded by MX, off road, quad tracks, assault, climbing ropes courses and archery field, with the paintball field being right next to the cafe too. http://www.actionpark.co.uk/

 

[Biscuit]

onasilverbike now thats the way to do it,this principle should be looked at by the mills boys aswell add tournie ball too other events then you would educate jo public

 

[PEBBLE]

lol not posted for a long time..

good to see Mr Brockdorff still moaning as usual..

snake looks quite interesting actually..looks higher

I'm getting fatter now so this is good news!

 

[NickBrockdorff]

Good to see Pebble still posting without knowing his facts

- New snake is not higher, in fact it's lower than the old beams

Guess you need to go on a diet now, with this new (to you) information?