Sideline coaching and signalling.

[raehl]

What?

Players like to bitch but are too lazy/don't care enough to actually support their players organization and do something about it? Who could have POSSIBLY ever predicted such a thing?


Back to the topic at hand - the no sideline coaching rule is just a bad rule. Because it's a right pain in the butt to enforce. What do you do, pull players who could have heard the coaching? Then people will just coach the opposition. Best you can do is toss the people doing the coaching, and then you've got refs running around policing spectators.

I play some X Ball, and it is a damned challenge to decipher the commands of a coach standing right on the sidelines TRYING to communicate with me when I'm TRYING to communicate with them. Just let coaching be allowed and that'll be the end of it.


Given the CURRENT rules though - I think all you can do is just boot the coach from the event. If you know it's been rehearsed (hand signals etc. and the team acts on them) then maybe you can throw penalties in as well, but again, you open yourself up to malicious coaching of the opposing teams.


And it's late, and I've answered way too many "I registered with the ID system but I never got my ID number." (because you didn't put in a valid email addresss duh) emails, so I'm going to bed. Please give me the benefit of the doubt in this post as brain is swimming.


Speaking of EPA (that sounds just odd to an american - environmental protection agency) and making a difference, I'll happily let EPA use the APPA ID system for European events. Have whoever drop me an email.

- Chris

 

[Wadidiz]

Even a fun thing can get to be a bit too much. NXL and Nations Cup X Ball are taking measures to minimize the sideline coaching. Coaching from the ends of the field is not allowed and the netting will be at least 10 meters from the playing field (on the spectator side) in Toulouse. On the tower side, only the coaches are allowed to communicate with the players on the field.

As for the horn imitators during the games in Amsterdam, I saw the persons who were doing it and they didn't hide it. One of the coaches complained about it and I asked him if he had a realistic suggestion for stopping the false signalling since, if I had one person or several kicked out, I had to be prepared to kick out everyone.

In all these cases the players have to fine-tune their "selectivity," to use radio receiver terminology.

Steve

 

[goose]

Coaching from the ends of the field is not allowed and the netting will be at least 10 meters from the playing field in Toulouse.

I hope this is only on the "spectator" side - if it also on the coaches side, then what is the purpose of having a coach??

goose

 

[Wadidiz]

Originally posted by goose
I hope this is only on the "spectator" side - if it also on the coaches side, then what is the purpose of having a coach??

goose

Good point. That's what I meant to write and I've edited my post.

Steve

 

[Alex Hicks.]

Due to the importance of surprise of moves in paintball shouldn't we go the way of tennis and enforce spectator silence during play and save the chearing for afterwords. theres nothing worse than making a run through all the way down to their back line and a spectator to give you away (or in some cases a judge but we won't go into that) when your about to do the last player.
Or if your team done everything you can to keep a player in before you go in for the mug and a spector tells him which side your gona come round on him.
Surely the spectator interference evens the field between the teams with great timing and those with just average timing and this can't be good for the game.

 

[Wadidiz]

Totally agree with Nick.

 

[Eddepet]

I promise that I will never again imitate the game horn during (or at the start of) an X-ball game......sorry guys, I was just trying have some fun and trying to forget the fact I wasn't playing the DMA's. I am for hire now by the way, as a party add-on.

Sincerely,

Ed

 

[raehl]

I disagree with Nick.

Bringing 50, 20 or even 5 spectators is no more effective than bringing two. Having more spectators "coaching" is COUNTER-productive. Like coaching or don't, but saying "Well sponsored teams will just bring more coaches and win" is one of the sillier things I've heard in a while.

- Chris

 

[Eddepet]

Different continent, different people.....I guess.

 

[Jones the Paint Magnet]

I watched as a spectator at Crystal Palace (7-man I think -I don't get out to tournies very much) and saw a situation where two players were about 12 feet from eachother but unaware of the other's presence. As one leaned out to check the other had ducked back in, and so on.

It was exciting to watch because you just knew sooner or later they'd realise and the balls would start flying - then again I had to bite my lip from making any comments or gestures to my friend with me, because whoever won the exchange would have controlled the flank of the field.

Now you'll always get spectators shouting and screaming when something exciting happens (especially if they're not 'ballers), but I'd reckon there's so much concentration on field by the players, that it would really take something to switch into an audience reaction and figure out where and what they were reacting to (unless you were right next to the net like I was).

However, someone working for the team pinpointing other players seems unfair. Certainly in the above case it could have tipped the balance of the game "'ere mate - easy one to your left, looking the other way". You might as well have a light or flag that goes up at each bunker when someone's behind it - I'm sure the people who actually play would prefer to keep the tactical element.