Sideline coaching and signalling.
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In that case, I have a videotape of a certain team in action the disciplinary board might find entertaining...
Well, when we saw it happen, we pointed it out to the refs at the field in question. They had a word with the guy after the game, but I don't know what was said then.
TJ, shame you weren't able to play Amsterdam. Stephen Hawkins was there dude!
TJ
I agree 100% - the person should have been reported/taken to the ultimate and if it was found out that he "did-what-he-did", both him & his team should have been punished.
But I am beginning to see a pattern forming when it comes to "the good & bad boys & girls" of our sport...
EVERYONE LOVES TO BITCH....
... and do jack sh!t about it. We (the EPA) have had less than overwhelming support from players on their own initiative - and this is something we are trying to do for the betterment of our sport.
Sure whenever we talk to players about our ideas people say "great idea" etc, but after the announcement & article in PGI we have had a handful of people showing their support. I think as long as things go well players don't give a damn.
Now why does this have to do with sideline coaching...
Well when players see someone doing these things, as long as it doesn't effect their team they don't give damn. I also think that players don't want to be seen as a "tattle tale".
Not only that - players NEED someone to blame when the lose - so someone giving signals is an easy scapegoat.
So now if players won't help each other out (by getting the offenders thrown out on their butts) or by showing interest in an organization that is attempting to do soemthing for them - then the EPA has very little they can do.
The whole "catch 22" with all of this is - what happens if I start coaching my teams opponents?? Why would I do that you ask - well, if I knew the punishment would be a 1-4-1 every time I shouted out hints to a team, you wouldn't be able to shut me up - I would have the whole other team out of the game ASAP - hell I would start yelling before the breakout telling them all where "my team" was going.
goose
I agree 100% - the person should have been reported/taken to the ultimate and if it was found out that he "did-what-he-did", both him & his team should have been punished.
But I am beginning to see a pattern forming when it comes to "the good & bad boys & girls" of our sport...
EVERYONE LOVES TO BITCH....
... and do jack sh!t about it. We (the EPA) have had less than overwhelming support from players on their own initiative - and this is something we are trying to do for the betterment of our sport.
Sure whenever we talk to players about our ideas people say "great idea" etc, but after the announcement & article in PGI we have had a handful of people showing their support. I think as long as things go well players don't give a damn.
Now why does this have to do with sideline coaching...
Well when players see someone doing these things, as long as it doesn't effect their team they don't give damn. I also think that players don't want to be seen as a "tattle tale".
Not only that - players NEED someone to blame when the lose - so someone giving signals is an easy scapegoat.
So now if players won't help each other out (by getting the offenders thrown out on their butts) or by showing interest in an organization that is attempting to do soemthing for them - then the EPA has very little they can do.
The whole "catch 22" with all of this is - what happens if I start coaching my teams opponents?? Why would I do that you ask - well, if I knew the punishment would be a 1-4-1 every time I shouted out hints to a team, you wouldn't be able to shut me up - I would have the whole other team out of the game ASAP - hell I would start yelling before the breakout telling them all where "my team" was going.
goose
Word Goose.
Jay, that tape heading to tha relevant authorities?
Hey, you guys wanna fly me over as Millennium Cop - I'll change my second name to Hooker and do tha whole Shatner bad boy thang.
Jay, that tape heading to tha relevant authorities?
Hey, you guys wanna fly me over as Millennium Cop - I'll change my second name to Hooker and do tha whole Shatner bad boy thang.
Sheez, I almost feel the need to defend myself .
For the record, we did do something about it. We spoke to the refs, which we thought was the appropriate thing to do, but with hindsight, we could have taken it a step further I guess. Also, when this happened we were not playing, we were there as mere spectators of the game in question. We did not even play the team during the tournament. We have only played them once before in Germany, and we gave them a good clobbering, so this is not out of spite or anything.
.For the record, we did do something about it. We spoke to the refs, which we thought was the appropriate thing to do, but with hindsight, we could have taken it a step further I guess. Also, when this happened we were not playing, we were there as mere spectators of the game in question. We did not even play the team during the tournament. We have only played them once before in Germany, and we gave them a good clobbering, so this is not out of spite or anything.
It's gonna be on the first thing smoking outta here. Although here being Amsterdam, that might not be the wisest way to get things underway...
we experienced such an action in Dam, a player from the opposite team was walking up and down the snake that we had a guy in, everytime our guy moved so did he. after our 6'6" potbitch had a word with him he decided that his life was far more important than pointing out where our front player was!
i do not condone personal threats to stop such actions, but our pot boy decided it was the quickest way to stop the cheating! and it definately worked, even to the point where when we played again said cheating ass went and stood at on end of the field away from 6'6" angry guy!!
i do not condone personal threats to stop such actions, but our pot boy decided it was the quickest way to stop the cheating! and it definately worked, even to the point where when we played again said cheating ass went and stood at on end of the field away from 6'6" angry guy!!
Thats exactly the reason I would be pissed off by this kind of sideline participation. Your element of surprise would be completely lost. And I think that should be a big part of good tactics.
As for comms devices, it would be cool to have each man on the team equipped with walkie talkies, but it would need to be regulated so that communication could not come in from off-field and dead men would lose the ability to send messages...
And lets face it, thats not going to happen! Can't stop players from talking when their eliminated now let alone with communication devices...
Paul