Shooting the cameras!

[NulodPBall]

I'll weigh in on shooting the camera man first, then the camera if he doesn't take a hint...whatever does my backman have 17 pods for if he can't shoot them?

So his video equipment is expensive...how much do you think the average paintballer at that level has spent for the whole year to get to the point where the cameraman is giving him away? Don't forget to count lost work, missed time with your family, in addition to all the cost of travel, paint, and your own equipment. In addition, he's stepping onto a paintball field with balls flying...he's bound to expect to get hit a few times.

As for yelling at the cameraman...come on, I don't even hear my mid-player right behind me half the time, how do you expect the camera man to hear you yell "Hey, stop taking pictures of my man crawling the snake" and even if he did hear you, what about the other team?

EVERY camera man stepping foot onto a major tournament's paintball field needs to have an orientation as to what's expected of him and what he can expect if he doesn't follow the rules...end of story.

If a camerman is in my way as I'm crawling, I'd shoot him out of the way or crawl over his feet and knock him down if I can...I do it to refs all the time and most of the time they realize that they were at fault and apologize afterwards...the same goes if I'm running...I'm not stupid and if a ref is in the way, I'll run behind him...if he backs up into me, I usually end up knocking him over with me cursing as I hit the ground and doing a fast crawl the rest of the way into my bunker...if he's checking a teammate and I'm in a position to fill, I'm prepped to go into his bunker whether he's alive or not...if my teammate's alive I bump from that bunker to anotherone in front, or hopefully into a snake and proceed to do damage...if he's dead, well I think on the run but alot of times the ref is backing up as he calls my teammate dead or alive and I tend to clip him in the back of the calves as I go in...most cameramen have enough sense to stay out of the way though...I felt sorry for one cameraman, they were at SC filming one of the ProTeams during practice, Avalanche I think, and the camera man was hunkered behind one of the short bunkers with a player, trying to get the action as the player was playing both sides of his bunker, while trying not to give the player away but also trying not to get shot...the cameraman was bald and he kept forgetting that he has to keep his chest on the ground and he kept getting shot over and over on his bald spot. Someone had pity on him and gave him a knit hat to wear, so that he at least wouldn't get scratch marks...oh well...

Ray

 

[ThunderCat]

As for damaging his equipment, don't worry about it, he is insured! Shoot him instead!
I do photos of Rock gigs and regularly get bottles and cans hitting me while I'm taking pics of the band, and of course there're the crowd-surfers coming in. If any of that damages my cameras, I can't expect payment from the person that did it, its one of the risks of shooting in that environment.

 

[Matte]

Ok.....here´s what happend. There were 1 Cyklone player and 1 Powertrip player at that side of the field. The Cyklone player went into the snake, the Powertrip player saw the move and ran up and took him out. He made a great move and he went cause he saw the player go into the snake......he did shot at him when the Cyklone player moved.

Its sad to see all this bull**** here, we had a clean game against Cyklone and this time we won.....nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you.

Matte Powertrip





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[Flaymin]

Cyclone ok?

 

[Troggy]

ROFL.

But i think Cyklone is so much more original!

 

[Matte]

Originally posted by Flaymin
Cyclone ok?

ok....cyclone it is, sorry buddy!




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[jahlad]

whilst marshalling one of the s2k3 events a couple months ago i was called over to help marshall one of the semis as a few of the other marshalls had vanished. so i jumps on to the field.....and the game took off
cant remember who was playing but it went down to 2 on 3 with me stood about 15 feet from one of the remaining 2 players, as their back right pushed up the guy in front of me stayed put. around the same time a photographer sneaked up behind me and started shooting the player over my shoulder, not giving anything away as the player was already spotted. as his team mate drew fire he moved up, seeing no one was shooting at him i stayed put and the camera man did too, we were both watching out of the corner of our eyes but he kept his camera on the empty bunker for a few secs then dropped it to his waist out of the way, stood next to me and watched the guy go mug out one of the others........very professional i thought

however as a front player im not sure how impressed i would be with a camera prat sticking his lens at me whilst im on the sneaky sneaky. first of all id tell him to do one, then if he didnt move i think id call one of my back men to shoot him in the ass!

as for damaging camera eq.....ok i wouldnt ever shoot deliberatly at the camera, as i know that gear aint cheap....but i would be tempted to nerf a cameraman out the way or shoot one if he was blocking my shot.
however they are insured and if they are on a paintball field they know the risk

 

[gaff]

Originally posted by Matte
Ok.....here´s what happend. There were 1 Cyklone player and 1 Powertrip player at that side of the field. The Cyklone player went into the snake, the Powertrip player saw the move and ran up and took him out. He made a great move and he went cause he saw the player go into the snake......he did shot at him when the Cyklone player moved.

Its sad to see all this bull**** here, we had a clean game against Cyklone and this time we won.....nothing more, nothing less.

Thank you.

Matte Powertrip





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sorry matte but i watched that field all day and that is not what happened! twice a cyclone player mde a move into the snake and neither powertrip players saw it, just as he was getting into the prime position (at the powertrip end of the snake) the camera that was following him came right in and started filming. i actually saw the pwertrip player watching the camera and then just pop round and shoot him then pop back! this happened twice in the same game! if the camera had not been there the cyclone player would have taken 2 maybe 3 powertrip guys before you had even realised!

dont want to start a slanging match, just thought an exact appraisal of the event should be noted!

you guys play great ball, but on this day you had 8 players!

 

[cocker13]

shooting the camera

First let me start by saying my name is Jeff Gallatin, the owner/ director of TRAUMAHEAD SPORTZ. We have been making paintball films for nine years now and most feel they are the best on the market. Over the years we have developed a vast array of countermeasures to ensure the integrity of the game.
We know players are watching us to take a clue as to when to mug, etc. We often film empty bunkers or the part of the snake that the player is NOT in. This may also affect the game as people run to mug non existent players. It is a trade off as the sport gets bigger and cameras are there to glorify players, it is going to affect the stealth aspect. My regular crew are the best at not giving away positions. THIS WAS NOT MY REGULAR CREW.
We were told we would be directing the crew from last year. This was not the case. These were french film school students that had never shot a single game of paintball. to make matters worse they didnt speak a word of english. I did the best I could the two days prior to get them up to speed but it was the most difficult shoot of my life.
It wasnt just this crew though, it was two other kids with cameras running to get the shot that made it blaringly obvious.
If the guy or team that got birdogged goes to my site ( www.traumaheadsportz.com) I'll get them some free product or something.We strive to promote the sport and its players, on this shoot we did the best we could with what we had to work with.