Shockwave and Madrid

[Magued]

But Christian, problem is if you outlaw coaching, you also get rid of spectator participation, which will make the whole thing a lot more boring.

The reason I suggest the 10 yards, is that it will effectively make almost all coaching ineffective..... so you keep the spectator participation, but decrease the effects of coaching.

Nick

No Nick.

You just moved the problem back a few yards..
Wouldnt change a thing accept people had to coach/counter coach louder.
And I think people had a problem with the counter coaching in Madrid, not the coaching.

The teams should be able to solve this issue within themself without screaming for the millennium to solve it for us. I suggest we (the cpl captains) have a talk about this in Paris and agree on how we should behave.

Magued

 

[Christian-Malera]

No Nick.

You just moved the problem back a few yards..
Wouldnt change a thing accept people had to coach/counter coach louder.
And I think people had a problem with the counter coaching in Madrid, not the coaching.

The teams should be able to solve this issue within themself without screaming for the millennium to solve it for us. I suggest we (the cpl captains) have a talk about this in Paris and agree on how we should behave.

Magued

The best thing would be if we can solve this before Paris, that way we don't need to spend money on tickets for two bodyguards for our coach

What do you sugest Maqued? I think a bigger distance to the crowd and the posibility for a designated spectator from each team close to the net would work, what do you guys think?

 

[Magued]

The best thing would be if we can solve this before Paris, that way we don't need to spend money on tickets for two bodyguards for our coach

What do you sugest Maqued? I think a bigger distance to the crowd and the posibility for a designated spectator from each team close to the net would work, what do you guys think?

Yes that would be fine.
And I suggest that teams agree not to counter coach. And if someone did that team would have to ask their supporters to stop it. Or all other teams would counter coach them all season!

Magued

 

[Giles]

Yes that would be fine.
And I suggest that teams agree not to counter coach. And if someone did that team would have to ask their supporters to stop it. Or all other teams would counter coach them all season!

Magued

Christian, Magued

I totally agree, I think we should have a designated area like Bitburg and keep the crowd a good 5 metres away, on the roster you mark which people you have in this space and thats enough.
It can be radio'd accross and problem solved
We can ask the teams not to counter coach and to keep there supporters supporting and not causing problems for what good it will do for some involved I am a bit sceptical

 

[chrismrgn]

I dont play CPL so this may be way off but here are my thoughts.

Have a 2m gap separating the netting an the spectators, within this gap there would be an area for the other team members, team crews, coaches etc.

This would mean that you could allow specific coaching from the teams, but also allow for spectator participation. The specators would be far enough away so that most anti-coaching would have no effect, but close enough so the spectators still felt they were a part of the game.

 

[Freddie Brockdorff]

Remove the coaches from the spectator-side.... Hmmm..... Well isn´t the snake where the coach is most-needed? And isn´t the snake what is the most interesting part of the field to watch for the spectators?

Not easy to solve - well at least not unless the teams, players and fans especially agree to behave in a descent way and simply "allow" the coaches to do their job: COACH!

I actually heard one of the coaches tell his snake-player to NOT listen to that stupid-ass *beeep* (nationality censored for obvious reasons!) and only pay attention to him.....

 

[Magued]

Remove the coaches from the spectator-side.... Hmmm..... Well isn´t the snake where the coach is most-needed? And isn´t the snake what is the most interesting part of the field to watch for the spectators?

Not easy to solve - well at least not unless the teams, players and fans especially agree to behave in a descent way and simply "allow" the coaches to do their job: COACH!

I actually heard one of the coaches tell his snake-player to NOT listen to that stupid-ass *beeep* (nationality censored for obvious reasons!) and only pay attention to him.....

I think this is what most teams would want, but its something the series have to agree on to do a designated area like Bitburg. But Bitburg got that area due to a mistake on the setup. The spectator fence was to far away from the field.

Not allowing coaching is not a option, the spectators need to be involved and by deafult coaching will be in place. And we cant move the spectators to far from the action. So the best way would be to have a area in front of the rest of the spectators. In Madrid it would have been enough with a rope in front of the spectator rope.

Regarding counter coaching I think we the teams could make a agreement. If someone tried to stop the coach doing hes job the coach could tell the other team about the problem and make them talk to the spectators. Failing to do that would make that team a target to all other teams. And thats something nobody would want, trust me.

Freddie, I also heard that coach, I think he was very smart


Magued

 

[Freddie Brockdorff]

I think this is what most teams would want, but its something the series have to agree on to do a designated area like Bitburg. But Bitburg got that area due to a mistake on the setup. The spectator fence was to far away from the field.

Well actually it was just the way to the M5-field.... A mistake in the CPL-setup - probably - but it actually worked fine for the coaches right? The question is just, if the venues in Paris and at Campaign has the same possibilities to do an area like this? (I have no clue since I´ve never been at either events!)

Freddie, I also heard that coach, I think he was very smart

 

[Nick Brockdorff]

Am I mistaken that the M7 rules calls for coaches to be on the team side of the field - and that the other side is reserved for spectators?

Ofcourse, if the format changes so that you have coaches on the spectator side too - that's fine... In the meantime i just can't see why you need a special setup for coaches that are not supposed to be there in the first place ??

Nick

 

[Magued]

Am I mistaken that the M7 rules calls for coaches to be on the team side of the field - and that the other side is reserved for spectators?

Ofcourse, if the format changes so that you have coaches on the spectator side too - that's fine... In the meantime i just can't see why you need a special setup for coaches that are not supposed to be there in the first place ??

Nick

Nick.

You have spectators that can participate and scream, and by default you then have coaches on that side.
The only way to stop it is to not allow spectators to give positions etc, or move them back 30 meters.
None of that is a good option and something have to be done about counter coaching as Im sure you agree on


Magued