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Missy Q

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I agree almost entirely with you Mister Loco, and thankyou for taking me seriously. It is good to see there are still some gentlemen left in the world.

There is also the argument that it is easier to fire fast with adrenalin pumping through your veins than when you are standing by the robot, that is unless you are cheating, in which case the threat of a DQ should provide enough adrenalin to keep you going.

The part I disagree with you on is that if brazen cheaters say the record from the field is false, that holds some merit. That area is the technically controlled area. I think they will argue that they shot that fast legally, but are unable to replicate it off the field.
The flaw is the human part.

The rest of what you said is certainly valid, but nonetheless I do believe this test will be in place. Therefore you can assume that people will be dq'ed as a result of it. Teams have argued against penalties since penalties were invented, but I do not see that peer pressure from a team or group of teams will work in this case. Eggs will be broken, and omelettes will be made. Such are the by-products of change, particularly in rule enforcement. People who cheat can't complain that people are trying to catch them. People who don't cheat can easily replicate a rate of fire, time after time, within 3bps. People who are ramping cannot, if they could they would not be ramping.

I do not know if they are testing people on the break, but as this is the one area that most teams have cheats activated I would be disappointed if it were not a point of focus. You answer to this lies in Denver.

For your last point, if the 18 wish to ignore this as a result of what day I posted they should fly home on, it would be unwise to do so.

as for your first point. I would not have a go if all of these white-boys were as polite as yourself. Tell me, is there a Mrs Loco?

EDIT ADDED: Play your cards right and there could be--at least for awhile. TFP
 

Missy Q

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Well sir, you are forward indeed, but so long as you have beauty, style and fashion sense, and don't have a big old gut hanging over your shorts, and don't come from one of those southern states where the men grow unsightly whiskers and have little or no respect for a proud larger lady such as I, you may be in luck...
 

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Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
What is it about "we can't enforce true semi" that people don't understand?????

:rolleyes:

I'll happily join Magued, Mark and Robbos little club.... but first they have to tell me how we are to go about enforcing the semi only rule??

Certified boards.

Tell you what. If I give you all a bunch of boards for the most common markers (Angel,s Shockers, Intimidators, Matrix) for $40 give you a way to make sure the boards in people's guns are those boards for $100-$200 per device, will you require everyone to use them?

Problem solved. Done with. And you also solve the velocity ramp problem at the same time. I will do this for you so that it can be implemented entirely for the 2006 season. I'll give away the software so anybody else who wants to make the boards can. Deal?
 

Chicago

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The NPPL solution is only temporary. I can already think of a few ways to beat this test. I'm pretty sure based on Tampa that Lasoya has already implemented at least one of them.
 

Nick Brockdorff

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Miss Owen:

Sorry - completely missed your first post!

That seems to be a workable solution.... but not being familiar with the latest NPPL gun rules, please tell me how you guys will ensure that the gun cheat is not also used during the check-out procedure you mention - and thus makes it pointless?

- BTW... stop hitting on Baca.... he'll get a heart attack ;)

Chicago Aaron:

I still agree that this is workable in theory... I just don't believe the "political will" is there to get it done.... there are too many confused loyalties involved with the various major leagues, to do anything that adversely effects one or more of the major gun manufacturers.

I might get proven wrong, and will be happy if I am!

At any rate - your solution takes time to implement - and would not be something we could do this season.

Nick
 

Missy Q

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Mr Brockdwarf,
tempted as I am to lay my big brown forearm upside your head for continuing to get my name wrong (my first name is Missy, last name Q) I will leave that for another day. All of yall's fascination with 'Owen' has to stop though. Word has it his head is quite big enough as it is.

I suppose the thoery is this. If you take a gun that is suspected of ramping (such as Chris's) and run it over to the robot, it passes, because the cheat has timed out. If the gun is then handed straight back to the player and he is asked to replicate the fire rate on the field, he has to either reactivate the cheat, which would then be detected by the robot, or not, which would make it difficult to replicate the fire rate.

I admit I am not 100% certain of how the rule will be officially enforced, just that the rule is happening. This rule is one of 2, the other one is a surprise...
The pro's and high-level teams will need to watch out. Hell, even your team should be careful...

Regarding your comment to Chicago. Political will is not an issue. I expect NPPL boards to be needed for 06. That much should be taken as a given. Once the NPPL do this the millennium will no doubt copy it, but call it something slightly different and claim it was their idea all along...
 

Missy Q

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While I do beleve that the accomplishments of Afro-carribean People in Paintball need to be better recognised, I, much like the MS, cannot take credit for this 'method'.
Maybe you should take credit for using a sentence that uses both the words 'leagues' and 'compromise' in a paintball context. I am not sure that has been done before.
 

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Originally posted by Missy Q
I suppose the thoery is this. If you take a gun that is suspected of ramping (such as Chris's) and run it over to the robot, it passes, because the cheat has timed out. If the gun is then handed straight back to the player and he is asked to replicate the fire rate on the field, he has to either reactivate the cheat, which would then be detected by the robot, or not, which would make it difficult to replicate the fire rate.
Nice theory, but it won't work. There's no reason that the gun can't be legal on the robot, passed to the player and not be legal, and then be legal on the robot right afterwards.

It's a temporary solution until people get better cheats.
 

Dusty

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you know i thought the days when the colour of your skin was important were long gone.

so please no more talk about it. say your piece and be done.