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Round 5 Midlands Masters Uttoxeter

Russell Smith

The Paintball Association
Slik

I was in the team that reached the final and then lost to the better team.
So please do not imply that it was sour grape's on our part why Rob said what he did when he collected our trophy.

When he mentioned the "****ty marshaling" it was his opion of what he saw during the day - Is this forum only for singing praise and licking the arse's of the midland masters.

I suspect blakey and his crew would never attain the type of event they want if you all just lick arse all the time.

Now first of all let's be honest and put my cards on the table I am the ultimate of all series 2002 events so I suppose we are kinda rivals of the midlands masters but let state quite clearly it's RIVALS not ENEMYS.

A lot of people came up to me yesterday asking what this rule was about and what that rule is ect ect but when blakey plays our events players will ask him (but I do know the rules) :) sorry blakey could'nt help that.

They was right when they said he would'nt get away with that at our event's when we all watched a player threaten the marshal on field three and it's true, But what about the player who was playing with a fully auto marker there was many safety issues that seamed to get ignored like people firing in the "safe" area and others.

Let me also say that the marshaling on field four was in my opinion was to a very high standard.

I saw to many ref's flat on the floor on one field and on another it's right about the ref's on another field not wanting to go anywhere on the field but try and marshall from the side but the quote off the day I will leave to the ultimate on field one (Names have been witheld to protect his total embarrasment)
When asked about not taking a player out who was shot while being sent back for moving on a neutral player his reply " How am i supposed to know all the rule's"

As to the sight it is going to be fantastic but what would have happend if it started to rain yesterday.

Tracey in a previous post say's we will try to make another event later in the year well let me say I will be quite happy to attend any future events and I also hope those of you who have only played the midlands masters try series 2002 as well it's not always a case of - better the devil you know.

So on a footnote good luck to blakey and the rest of the midlands masters crew and see you all soon and mark was quite right when he said nobody play's until the marshals turn up so show some RESPECT the next time you play.


PS Play series 2002 it rocks big time :D :)
 

blakey

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thanks for the feedback

Once again a big thank you for all your feedback, It is the only way we can improve is when you guys tell us whats wrong, that way we can fix it, and fix it we do, I look forward to the comming years with our new found rivals helping each other to set a higher standard.
On a more serious note get well soon to Cockney John of the UK Chameleons, The St Johns Crew are a definate plus,nd wil be at all future events, better safe than sorry.

Anyway must go still got some sleep to catch up on, its hard setting up,running a party and a tournament and than taking it all down in Just 36 hours.

Midlands Masters putting You the player first.

Blakey.

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As for the marshalls ask yourself a question all you who complained, just how good were you when you started, if you have ever marshalled, and Russ no ones perfect, but I guess your closer than most.
 

Walker (Nitro)

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Russell

when did slik imply that he was referring to your team as having sour grapes? Ive seen inferno win loads of events......

That was his first tournament marshalling job and he did a dam sight better than most of the marshals there.... Have you ever seen anyone stand up to Rob who is 3' smaller than he is?

Also it was team SWAT who said out loud that the marshalling was "****ty", and i can tell you there was a pretty low opinion of that remark (if only there wasnt such a thing called lible i could say loads)

"Licking arses of the Midlands masters"
just goes to show they are a force to be reckoned with.......

I have never seen any other tournament organisers post so much information, take heed of feedback, walk around talking to teams during the days play, and just generally get down to the players point of view as much as blakey.

just "my" pennies worth......

Chris Walker

(these views are mine and not necessarily the whole teams)

P.S i have played a few series events before...
 

blakey

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RE ROB

Originally posted by TRACYPAINT
What i did find disturbing was the lack of saftey for people spectating (eg crono's set up in the middle of a walk way)also teams set up in the car park firing paint as others were going to the butty van.]

The crono's were positioned on boxes away from the fields of play, on large timber frames, so that people could see them, unfortunately we couldn't transport the crono stands from Wrexham but next time we will have some there, and as for the teams set up in the car park, the site owner was with them and they were not posing a hazard to anyone, as when they were testing their markers they were firing into an empty field from behind their tent.

The safe area did have a roof until Saturday morning when a freak wind removed it, and Jamie had a spare ready just in case.

Anyways up, on the whole we felt it as a pretty damm good event, but thats just my opinion, or is it, c'mon teams tell what you thought!

A big thanks to Jerry Ward-Barber, and Diablo, and to Tim & Jim at Warped Sports, Sparklie, JSM Engravers, Kellys Heroes, AND ALL OF THE MARSHALLS, thanks one and all.
 

Phil Warr

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Feedback

If there's one thing we're not afraid of it's feedback from the teams who play our events, both good and bad. As Russel so kindly said we do need the bad feedback, more so than the good, so we can keep on improving the event.
We have had a lot of good post's over the course of our events (as well as some bad ones) but I think it's a little unfair on you (Russel) to call them all arse lickers, there just stating there opinion as they see it. We do appreciate the feedback from you, as it is always useful to hear the views of someone as knowledgable as you are.
One thing we will continue to do though is act on the feedback we recieve and always make ourselves approachable to the players of our events, so please, keep the feedback coming.
 

Jinxy

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I saw to many ref's flat on the floor on one field and on another it's right about the ref's on another field not wanting to go anywhere on the field but try and marshall from the side but the quote off the day I will leave to the ultimate on field one (Names have been witheld to protect his total embarrasment)
Russ,
I agree with you on the above matter, I should know better and know every rule.

But in all my time I have played paintball, I have not bad mouthed a marshal or field ultimate like you did to me, I leave that up to the captain.

So you could said I am not a good as you as a marshal, but I have a hell of a lot more respect for marshals then you have.

I have seen many a time you have cocked up at tournaments, a lot more worse than my mistake.

As the old saying goes, those that live in glass house should not throw stones.

I make you a deal, I will try to be a better marshal, if you try to be a better paintball player and have some respect for the marshalls.

You’re Mate

Jinxy :)
 

Russell Smith

The Paintball Association
Ok let me make one thing clear I am not at all against the midlands masters in any way shape or form -In fact it's like a breath of fresh air there is another tournement on the scene that puts players first.

I also hope they have the common sense to make some cash for themselves so they can carry on.

I wont let anybody put words in my mouth and I will say what I think and Jinxy is dead right when he said I have made a balls up in the past but I am man enough to admit it and it seems so is jinxy so well done jinxy.

As to the bad mouthing bit !!.

So I say again I will be very happy to play any future events because it is in my limited experience of it a good set of events.

But lets look at one or two of the things that happened:

A player threatened a ref in front of other marshals and other teams after the midlands last event blakey posted on this forum that any future misconduct of that sort would not be tolerated ?.

Also a player was playing with a marker in fully auto mode.

If and I do mean if blakey was informed of these incidents what happened.

I also accept it might have seemed a little offensive when i used the phrase "Arse lickers" .
All tournaments are praised after the event in most cases but we all can only Improve with constructive critics.

So I hope we are all still mate's.

:) :) :)


PS there was one person who like a sly little twat he is complained about the hat I was wearing I will keep my comments for that wan*** untill i see him - Soon:mad:
 

nutz

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team s.w.a.t.

we as a team agree that the marshaling was good and could do with some slight improvements, but the so called sour grapes were only apparent when we played our last game in the playoffs
1. chrono- players from s.w.a.t. passed,
viper player came up took two shots to the right, then 3 over the chrono all above 300fps, (hmmm) we always understood that consituted a hot gun, so why was he allowed to use it. (memories of russ not being able to use his against viper in the final)
also the universal signal for a player to call himself out is to raise his hand and leave the field, so why on earth when this player was putting his arm up and leaving the field did the marshal push him back down, this matter was a crucial point to the game in the minds of team s.w.a.t. and cost us the game. as it was at this point a 2on2 siuation. the comment was and should have been explained for field 4, all other fields were run reasonably good
but another point to note, marshals calling players neutral should touch them first before the neutral call.
 

kris

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I agree with you nutz
When i marshall, i always "try" to let the game continue.
It really does slow the game down by keep calling neutral player. Sometimes the marshall has just got to brave it and realise he might get shot a few times.
Marshall's have got to realise that calling neutral is not always necessary.