Some would say that. Others would say that NXL and PSP modes are essentially the same, except PSP mode continues firing extra shots after you release the trigger....
Ramping - Robbo's Article in PGI 195
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And PSP can tell their insurance company with a (barely) straight face that they don't allow full auto.
As for most people want ramping...
Well duh. Most peple can't shoot a marker fast on their own and want to be able to shoot as fast as other people who can. Majority wins and all.
But the problem is they're not REALLY the majority. They're just the majority of tournament players. The real majority, and the most important majority, are first-time players. They don't want to be lit up at 15 bps, but with these ramping markers running round, the same people cheating at tournaments now will be cheating at rec games with the same guns (or maybe it'll be different people using the same guns.) The fields don't have a good way to police that, and soon you start to see less growth in the sport because it's just too painful for the new people.
Most people are also not smart enough to realize that they're playing with fire, and at some point someone is going to get injured and they won't be able to play at all.
I'm not sayiing they'll be injured byshot ramping necessarily - but allowing ramping is just a band-aid solution.
You still can't effectively stop breakout modes. And the real problem is going to come when everyone is shooting 15 bps ramping and starts looking for someplace else to get an advantage - and that's going to be velocity. There's no good way to measure velocity all the time.
The only real solution is we have to get control over what's in the guns. If we don't control what chips people can use, it's only a matter of time before people are shooting 400 fps at 15 bps. Trouble.
I understand what your saying about the rec scene. But the availability of cheap 'ready to rock' markers like the Ion means any new player could have ramping too. And isnt your average ramp chip about $80 now anyway? Just like kids used to upgrade from say a Spyder to an Angel, now they'll be moving from point B to point C...Electro's are cheap new, let alone 2nd hand.
Dwell ramp is a serious issue for sure though......
Dwell ramp is a serious issue for sure though......
Aren't the radar speed guns used by NXL effective in controlling most, if not all, hot guns? It's just unfortunate that it's such an expensive solution at $2000 per radar gun plus a couple of warm bodies to do the on-field checking. And this problem is not new at all considering the holes I saw a Miami Effect player shot through an Aftershock jersey drawing blood at the first Pomona event in 2003. And we had a certain promonent player in EXL last season who shot holes through pods on more than one occasion.
I think you're right if what you're suggesting can be effectively implemented but I think we need to go through this season with the cap, and perhaps the electronic help, after which all the refs have become totally familiar with the sound of 15bps and how to use the ball-count instruments. And perhaps the increasingly wide-spread availibility of the ball-count instruments will inform us better on how fast players really can shoot thus giving us a benchmark for what is humanly possible with semi-only.
I think my views are well known;
I AM SICK OF THE 'IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM' ATTITUDE!!!!!!
Semi-auto is the fairest and requires skill (training and application) to shoot fast. The cheaters should continue to be hunted down and the penalties be sufficiently harsh to discourage the 'illegal' modes.
If we applied this attitude to society then we may as well legalise heroin, as it seems impossible to stop it!
Also the argument that the various series having different modes gives variety and that if you dont like it then dont play it frankly just ignores the central issues.
Further more, I believe that if ramping were to be truly highlighted to the Home Office we may have legal implications to deal with too. At least by ruling against it and trying to stop its use we stand a chance.
I have played with Nexus against several teams last year that used ramping in the EXL. We were put at a severe disadvantage because we took a stance against its use and played unbouncy semi only markers. I personally shall continue (call me old fashioned - or just old) and when we all go back to semi-only it will be fun watching the muppets that have so readily embraced this 'evolution' shoot at 4 bps.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I AM SICK OF THE 'IF YOU CANT BEAT THEM, JOIN THEM' ATTITUDE!!!!!!
Semi-auto is the fairest and requires skill (training and application) to shoot fast. The cheaters should continue to be hunted down and the penalties be sufficiently harsh to discourage the 'illegal' modes.
If we applied this attitude to society then we may as well legalise heroin, as it seems impossible to stop it!
Also the argument that the various series having different modes gives variety and that if you dont like it then dont play it frankly just ignores the central issues.
Further more, I believe that if ramping were to be truly highlighted to the Home Office we may have legal implications to deal with too. At least by ruling against it and trying to stop its use we stand a chance.
I have played with Nexus against several teams last year that used ramping in the EXL. We were put at a severe disadvantage because we took a stance against its use and played unbouncy semi only markers. I personally shall continue (call me old fashioned - or just old) and when we all go back to semi-only it will be fun watching the muppets that have so readily embraced this 'evolution' shoot at 4 bps.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Oh, and if I'd written what I wanted in reply against one or two of the posts above I would have been back in 'Fight Club' or threatened with a beating from the fun police!!
Goddam it, this is where some ****er has crossed tha mutha****ing line. What evil ****s are putting primates inside markers? Fine, I understand we need to rub perfume in their eyes and shave them and apply anusol and all that, cos it's like for, er, health an stuff, and to make laydeez look fine, but I draw tha line at forcing monkeys inside gats and making them work their speedy magic.Originally posted by matski
And isnt your average ramp chimp about $80 now anyway?
Oh, the inhumanity of it all...
Teej
It's ok as long as they are bred in captivity. It's the use of wild chimps that really gets me annoyed.
After all, 'it's progress'