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Originally posted by Collier
Ok, I'll go back to a question I made earlier, as far as you're aware what steps are being taken in the 'other' leagues to tackle cheat guns?
How are they safer?

I gotta say I never heard about any 'field condition' in relation to Rodbaston. I heard other things at the time but none I can remember clear enough to type as 100% true.
I know Sparkie has some amazing idea's for the ancaster site and if they come off it'll be a truly brilliant site!

I clearly don't have the same perception of Russell, Hatts et all as you, I don't feel like I've had a golden carrot waved under my nose at all.
I've seen spectator stands being mentioned a few times in posts and the fact that they don't have them yet, well if the fields are going to be changed around, to me it doesn't make sense to start setting things like that up, also what spectators? There are a few knocking about but I believe this is down to the team not just the PA organisation.
The way I see it is the PA has plenty of ideas as to what they want to achieve, but these things take time and money which probably translates to quite a few more seasons yet till they have the stuff they currently have planned implenented.
Build it and they will come!

Advertise it and they will come!

Promote it and they will come!

MAKE IT SAFE FIRST AND THEY WILL COME!

DONT PROMISE false things and they wont get pissed off.

Seasons how many years exactly is that?

What do we have to show sponsors as 1 division players as they only properly film division 3-4 or any teams that get financial help from.

Do we have to pay the PA for a TV deal so we can show our sponsors we are on Sports Nation not sky television.

Thats it i'm off again sorry just my points from somwhere in this novel we have written.

Can they wait that long, already new tourneys opening up behind the scenes, whoops competition against the PA not good at least they got teams signed up and paid in full, who they can take to court if they leave and dont pay.

See I dont understand, ref school what happened to that, did refs leave and they struggled to replace them at the cost of badly marshalled fields.

Chrono judges are a laugh on some fields.

Netting was a laugh.

Field designs where great. whoops a good point, heres another field designs given out fantastic.

Field 4-5 where a joke, where was the netting not even the proper stuf.


I wanted to bring friends and my little lad but it was just not safe, balls over netting everywhere, through gaps.

Players randomly shooting 15 bps in the air because they could.

Random velocities, I know the difference.

No proper security.

No ids again

No checks on staining paint, example BLUE/GREEN which both are bedded into my tops.


THE marshalls that have been on the fields before, and know me always do a good job and respect them for handling the issues and the increased risk from idiots who cant fire straight.

Chronos showing different ratios on all fields again,.

There black box of tricks which works fine if being used my a magician, but did say that all passengers survivied the crash, and sorry prints it out as well.
 

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mad dog.
you keep saying its not safe, but you have no proof.
however the event ran and i have no knowledge of mass graves being made.
surely 15 bps cap with ramping is safer than hidden ramping and fire as fast as you feel like..

reading your posts i sometimes have to check we were at the same event...
 

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Originally posted by Buddha 3
The next person to use lol or lmao on this thread will be banned. No kidding.

We are not a chatroom. We do not need to be aware of the fact that you are laughing. But of you feel the need none the less, use the smileys.

Thank you. TFP.
Sorry mate, texting on phone and writing causes problems sometimes, I understand:D :D :D
 

mad dog

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Originally posted by Kevin
mad dog.
you keep saying its not safe, but you have no proof.
however the event ran and i have no knowledge of mass graves being made.
surely 15 bps cap with ramping is safer than hidden ramping and fire as fast as you feel like..

reading your posts i sometimes have to check we were at the same event...

O please leave it alone, its not the safety issue please read it properly its the event of increased risk and no proper risk assessments done.

They have increased the risk with little or no effort to listen to critical comments on safety.

Ok I will bang my head aginst a wall, run naked through the PA at the next event, maybe I wont do the last bit, not good.

Just to say that an issue came up and was told to something off go somewhere else with your issues.

I had players coming to me saying thanks for the warning as they where now aware of the increased risk, my job was done., may I add after they got balls in there mask.
Christ what does it take, to get the message across.

Safety first,
 

Collier

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Originally posted by mad dog
O please leave it alone, its not the safety issue please read it properly its the event of increased risk and no proper risk assessments done.

They have increased the risk with little or no effort to listen to critical comments on safety.

Ok I will bang my head aginst a wall, run naked through the PA at the next event, maybe I wont do the last bit, not good.

Just to say that an issue came up and was told to something off go somewhere else with your issues.

I had players coming to me saying thanks for the warning as they where now aware of the increased risk, my job was done., may I add after they got balls in there mask.
Christ what does it take, to get the message across.

Safety first,
Once again ;)

Originally posted by manike


As for the safety of goggles...

As long as you use decent quality goggles and replace the lenses as specified I don't believe there is a safety issue...

This test was from approx 3 feet, with an NXL style code but that still required you to keep walking your fingers (like the PSP is suggesting) at over 300fps. It's a full loader...

You'll need quicktime to watch it.

Goggle test
 
Originally posted by mad dog
OH my god, now you have done it, admitting that stuff mate.


You said that lol.

And why does he do that because he is crap on the trigger, let me know who it is lol, come on tell me.

Where is his skill if he has to cheat? And you know him,

Don't do it at the PA you will be an assisting a cheat in the court of PA law

Are you brave enough to tell us?
Well thats one hell of a way to avoid a question. It's been asked again and still no answer!

-EDD
 

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Originally posted by Collier
Once again ;)


Once again the test is pants, not a proper test.


What are the angled shots like do we all stand in front of the shots and take it, or do we have heads that wobble or flick around and move.

Lets go get a test dummy.

Who wants to be a stuntman if your so confident and stand there when this is done.

I would not thats for sure.

Who governed this test?

Where did the test come from?

what velocities, speed of balls, ramping or not?

What balls where used?

etc etc

Ok one thing is clear, a lot of people watching this and the same guys answering, why is this?

look into the deeper picture and you will see a whole lot of answers, I have given a responsible and worked out answer to stop cheating and all you come up with a wripped out page of something we all have seen maybe some time last year when this conversation started.

I will leave someone else to discuss this now, going to see doctor to remove my repetative strain injuries caused from to much laptop keyboard action......


Have fun everyone,
 

Collier

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Originally posted by mad dog
Once again the test is pants, not a proper test.


What are the angled shots like do we all stand in front of the shots and take it, or do we have heads that wobble or flick around and move.

Lets go get a test dummy.

Who wants to be a stuntman if your so confident and stand there when this is done.

I would not thats for sure.

Who governed this test?

Where did the test come from?

what velocities, speed of balls, ramping or not?

What balls where used?

Once again??? I've posted that quote 3 times this is the first time you've addressed it!

At least read the bleedin text :rolleyes:

Originally posted by mad dog


Ok one thing is clear, a lot of people watching this and the same guys answering, why is this?

look into the deeper picture and you will see a whole lot of answers, I have given a responsible and worked out answer to stop cheating and all you come up with a wripped out page of something we all have seen maybe some time last year when this conversation started.

Probably cos I'm the only guy who can be arsed! Pretty much ask the same question of why you're the only person who seems to have beef!

And I'm sorry but your answer is not reasonable nor well worked out, it is a dream a far fetched one at that!
Aint no way on this earth organisers are going to set up a special tent to inspect every single board etc etc.. no way!
Even at a low figure of say 308 markers (11 teams x 7 markers per team x 4 divisions) you'd be looking at, lets say 5 mins each gun and that's provided you could actually check the code, (which in itself has more holes then swiss cheese) total time 25.6 hours. Spread between 2 people 12.8 hours, oh then add on rejecting markers then people fine tuning and sending them back for retest etc etc....
And that's workable??? :confused:

.....wow!
 
Originally posted by mad dog
, I have given a responsible and worked out answer to stop cheating and all you come up with a wripped out page of something we all have seen maybe some time last year when this conversation started.


NO, you've given an idea on how to stop cheat boards. It's totaly unworkable and when people have asked how a certain part of it would work you responded by saying 'i don't have all the answers'. Well the problem is NOONE does so it wouldn't work.

-EDD
 
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