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Originally posted by mad dog
I have given a responsible and worked out answer to stop cheating and all you come up with a wripped out page of something we all have seen maybe some time last year when this conversation started.,
Please tell us what it is then?!!?!

Please excuse our dismissiveness but everything that you have posted so far has been suggested and discounted a million times before.

We are all looking for ways to combat gun cheats, but I dont see anything new being suggested...
 

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Is it me or does everyone read "blah blah blah blah blah blah blah" when mad dog posts. Seriously dude, you don't even finish your statements, complete your sentences or take note of ANYTHING anyone says.

Plus you say you arent playing the PA anymore, so please just go away.

Oh and I loved your bit when you said "FACT FACT FACT".....and a little later on said "when I say FACT I mean maybe.."

lol
 

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Originally posted by mad dog
O please leave it alone, its not the safety issue please read it properly its the event of increased risk and no proper risk assessments done.....
Mark , you are arguing against yourself. Or at least thats what it seems like. I've been reading this thread on and off all day ( I'm at work , and should be doing other stuff ).

Anyway , you say its not safe , but then say its not the safety issue , its the extra risk. What exactly is the extra risk?

Is it the 15 BPS? No , because ( by your own words ) most people can attain 15BPS or more anyway. Plus we have always had cheater boards. Now its just that everyone has the option to ramp.

Is it the simple fact that we have a ramp ( not a cheater board. Its only a cheater board if its against the rules ) , well , by your own admission , there are numerous cheater boards out there already. Oh , maybe its the boards that are ramping above 15BPS , or velocity ramping? Well , they are out there already , and changing it back to how it was wont stop them , it never did ( Paul has proven this , he knows someone that has used , and does use ramp in other series ) and I'm damn sure you do too. At least now it can be policed properly.

You come up with ways to police it , they are not realistic , or in some cases , they are not even possible. Surely you must realise that some of what you are saying is a bit fantasy land?

At the end of the day , ramping has been about for a long time. Only a special few had access to it. How is that fair , and if we dont know who is using it , how is that safe? Changing it back to the old system wont help , we'd still have them , and the rates of fire would be uncapped and uncheckable again.

In my opinion ( and lots of other peoples ) Sunday showed that the ramping did not hurt the game ( in respect of loss of skills , or movement , or in enjoyment ). I dont think there was any issue of overkill ( no more than usual ) , and as far as I am aware , no-one was hurt.

Ive read somewhere from the anti ramp people , quoting phrases like "you cant say its safe after only one event , its not enough of a test " , so how can you say its enough of a test to show that it does not work , and is not safe?

Mad dog , I've known you for a long time , I know what you're like , but to be honest mate , you are starting to sound a bit of a muppet. I think its time you stopped this campaign and just deal with it. In fact you dont even need to deal with it anymore , 'cus you have decided to stop playing the PA. Its a shame , and no doubt someone will miss you ( although that does not happen very often does it? ;) )

I really dont know why you've taken such a dislike to this ruling , and others that the PA have introduced. Run before we can walk maybe? I dont think so. If there are rules that could improve the game , why wait to implement them?

My 2pence worth. Or maybe its more like 14 pence worth.
Hope to see you around though Mark. Cheers dude. :cool:
 

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Originally posted by Rob - Nott'm Tremmor
Mark , you are arguing against yourself. Or at least thats what it seems like. I've been reading this thread on and off all day ( I'm at work , and should be doing other stuff ).

Anyway , you say its not safe , but then say its not the safety issue , its the extra risk. What exactly is the extra risk?

Is it the 15 BPS? No , because ( by your own words ) most people can attain 15BPS or more anyway. Plus we have always had cheater boards. Now its just that everyone has the option to ramp.

Is it the simple fact that we have a ramp ( not a cheater board. Its only a cheater board if its against the rules ) , well , by your own admission , there are numerous cheater boards out there already. Oh , maybe its the boards that are ramping above 15BPS , or velocity ramping? Well , they are out there already , and changing it back to how it was wont stop them , it never did ( Paul has proven this , he knows someone that has used , and does use ramp in other series ) and I'm damn sure you do too. At least now it can be policed properly.

You come up with ways to police it , they are not realistic , or in some cases , they are not even possible. Surely you must realise that some of what you are saying is a bit fantasy land?

At the end of the day , ramping has been about for a long time. Only a special few had access to it. How is that fair , and if we dont know who is using it , how is that safe? Changing it back to the old system wont help , we'd still have them , and the rates of fire would be uncapped and uncheckable again.

In my opinion ( and lots of other peoples ) Sunday showed that the ramping did not hurt the game ( in respect of loss of skills , or movement , or in enjoyment ). I dont think there was any issue of overkill ( no more than usual ) , and as far as I am aware , no-one was hurt.

Ive read somewhere from the anti ramp people , quoting phrases like "you cant say its safe after only one event , its not enough of a test " , so how can you say its enough of a test to show that it does not work , and is not safe?

Mad dog , I've known you for a long time , I know what you're like , but to be honest mate , you are starting to sound a bit of a muppet. I think its time you stopped this campaign and just deal with it. In fact you dont even need to deal with it anymore , 'cus you have decided to stop playing the PA. Its a shame , and no doubt someone will miss you ( although that does not happen very often does it? ;) )

I really dont know why you've taken such a dislike to this ruling , and others that the PA have introduced. Run before we can walk maybe? I dont think so. If there are rules that could improve the game , why wait to implement them?

My 2pence worth. Or maybe its more like 14 pence worth.
Hope to see you around though Mark. Cheers dude. :cool:


I hate forums;)

They never portray the whole picture or words you really are trying to say, or cant due to legal reasons.


Look at the whole picture mate phone me if you want, I will exsplain and then tell me if im being a muppet.

unlike the PA I am willing to stand up at a meeting an exsplain my actions are they?

We have repetively asked for meeting and it never came.

Phone me I will send you my number for believe me a quick talk.
 

Baca Loco

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This thread was hijacked by the guerilla marketing experts at House of Redundancy. At HoR we can repackage thoughts, ideas and intellectual property regardless of functionality or merit and deliver it at point of impact with devastating effect.
House of Redundancy specializes in those situations where you must either make a bold, contrarian splash or find a way to effortlessly fit in with that new crowd. [HoR also carries a line of pre-developed fashions and accessories as well as OEM-like auto parts.]
 

Russell Smith

The Paintball Association
Originally posted by mad dog

unlike the PA I am willing to stand up at a meeting an exsplain my actions are they?


Anytime anyplace.

Mark,

You keep coming up with stories that I lie to you, and that the PA is this organisation that is out to **** up paintball and it is obvious that you believe that.
I have not lied to anyone and will quite happily talk to you at any meeting to assure you and others that what the PA are trying to do is only for the benifit of paintball in the UK.

Russ
 

Russell Smith

The Paintball Association
House of Redundancy

Originally posted by Baca Loco
This thread was hijacked by the guerilla marketing experts at House of Redundancy. At HoR we can repackage thoughts, ideas and intellectual property regardless of functionality or merit and deliver it at point of impact with devastating effect.
House of Redundancy specializes in those situations wherre you must either make a bold, contrarian splash or find a way to effortlessly fit in with that new crowd. [HoR also carries a line of pre-developed fashions and accessories as well as OEM-like auto parts.]

I have read this thread too much - I understand that:).


Russ
 
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