PRO VS PRO Superleague

[sjt19]

Sam

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
It was just a joke..... directed at Robbo

- I THINK you just wrote that last post tongue in cheek - but I better make sure.....



Nick

Tongue firmly in cheek.

 

[Wadidiz]

Originally posted by duffistuta
Not just that, they have 6 episodes of their existing format being televised in a couple of months time.

Now, if you were just about to have your last season televised, would you bowl straight into a format change - without even knowing how the US audience is going to respond to the programmes that are about to hit the screen?

I am fully aware of the arguments why NPPL might be willing to make that leap, but personally I would be loathe to change a format that I had already managed to secure a good TV slot for without at least waiting for the first show's ratings...

Duffy,

In all respect, I don't think it was the format that secured a TV slot. It was superior marketing and promotion. Combine a much, much better format and then we've got something truly formidable.

Steve

 

[Buddha 3]

Baca

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff

The international flavour may be the unique selling point that makes the premier League more interesting to tv than the NXL.

- or not



Nick

Probably not in the US. Seems like most Americans don't give a flying fornication about whatever happens outside their country.

Take a look at the NFL Europe (former WLAF: World League of American Football). In it's original form it had teams in both Europe and the US, but as far as television went, it was no more than a side show, Despite the undeniable talent of some of the players in this league (Kurt Warner comes to mind).
Let's face it, unless the league's name has the word 'National' in it, most Americans would heap it in with the "rest of the Eurotrash".

More likely than not, the NPPL would not have been aired in the US had the series winners been a European team. And I doubt Dick Clarke would have been as interested in the NXL if it had a European conference as well.

 

[gaff]

Originally posted by Wadidiz
Duffy,

In all respect, I don't think it was the format that secured a TV slot. It was superior marketing and promotion. Combine a much, much better format and then we've got something truly formidable.

Steve

100% it is not the format that won the deal it was the backing and marketing. The millennium could match this marketing level if it chose to, as we have some of the best marketing companies and professionals in the world on our doorstep, it just takes money and a united body of likeminded people!

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Robbo
....or am I missing something ?

Paul, I ain't missing sh!t, I am fully aware of everything you just said, it's just that it comes down to a difference of opinion that is all.

Well then, why did you ask? No, let me guess. You were pretending to be humble, yes? If so that's infringing on my territory. Of course, Nick does it all the time, too.

 

[gaff]

Baca

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
People tend to debate like they play paintball

if that were the case then none of us would be able to speak from the deadbox!!

 

[Baca Loco]

Jay

Originally posted by Nick Brockdorff
We are in a very different position here...... and loads of international competitions are televised in the US, with the US audience cheering their local favourites on.

Think skiing, iceskating, soccer, athletics, cycling, golf, etc.

Nick

You're living in fantasy land on this one, Nick. Skiing? Are you serious? Ice skating--the US audience is almost exclusively female and rates a few "specials" every year, tops. Soccer--this would'a seemed a natural for some sort of international tie-in and yet--it's an all American league with foreign born players and ratings that even the Food Network would look askance at. Cycling gets a nod from OLNTV for the Tour de France as long as Armstrong keeps winning. When that stops so does the meager interest it generates over here. Golf--foreign players are ok as long as its a PGA event or a major. Can you say, Tiger Woods? Besides, as an individual "sport" it is perceived differently than team sports. How 'bout tennis? Rapidly dying a serious TV death. Same goes for most Olympic sports in non-Olympic years.
Nice try but it don't fly.

 

[gaff]

i think the way forward for Paintball on the TV needs to be along the lines of the scateboarding, kite surfing, snowboarding avenues. these are hugely popular activities in the states and Europe and the celebrities of these disciplines are both US and European!

although they are individual activities, they still have that edgy, trendy, cool feel for them that paintball can easily slip into!

the question is does the new proposed format and potential tie with the NPPL, give the companies that are already making millions in TV and DVD sales the incentive to give it the coverage that it requires to become 'big time'. its all in the marketing unfortunately and the simple fact is you can sell mud to the millions if you spend enough money and get enough airtime to convince people its what they need!

 

[Robbo]

According to Nick, these 11 pages of rhetoric are getting us closer and closer to a more informed directive..........

All I see is an array of disagreements, ideas, egos and self interest splattering itself across the pages of P8ntballer.com hindering rather than helping.....

Too many people, too many opinions, far too many egos and only one sport....it's a funny ole game

Let's go back to the woods, Rancid, you were right all along mate !

 

[Buddha 3]

Originally posted by Robbo
Too many people, too many opinions, far too many egos and only one sport....it's a funny ole game

Let's go back to the woods, Rancid, you were right all along mate !

Only one sport? I beg to differ! We have rec-ball, seven man, X-Ball, 5 man, 10 man.....and so forth.

Anyway, I'll get the PGP's, you get the paratrooper boots.