Possible end to the "Never Ending Debate."
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We may have the makings of a good paintball-physics geek-thread going on here... it's been a while 
As for shot to shot consistancy it might be better to think/describe in terms of "grouping" rather than accuracy or we may lead others astray in talk of "why Angels are less accurate" (for example)
As for shot to shot consistancy it might be better to think/describe in terms of "grouping" rather than accuracy or we may lead others astray in talk of "why Angels are less accurate" (for example)
And in true thread-jack stylee.
Hotpoint - I've just realised quite how high up your HALO is off your marker in your avatar! Do you have to put a light on top to avoid collisions with low flying planes?
....and getting back to the thread in hand:
While the valve itself is important, the inline regs are equally important too.
Hotpoint - I've just realised quite how high up your HALO is off your marker in your avatar!
Do you have to put a light on top to avoid collisions with low flying planes? ....and getting back to the thread in hand:
While the valve itself is important, the inline regs are equally important too.
I'm the #1 ranked thread-jacker round these parts. Are you trying to steal my Thunder? (given that you're missing yours)
It's just my way of compensating for being so shortOriginally posted by Beaker
Hotpoint - I've just realised quite how high up your HALO is off your marker in your avatar!
Better do that before we get banned by the New Order
Agreed. So basically it's the whole set up's consistency that does the trick, that's including the reg on your tank, your inline, your valve, and your whatevers.
Eh..give me a couple of hours to drink some coffee and wake up before I give a nice, detailed response to all of those posts you made. However, in the meantime, I will say this:
Those of you who attempted to disprove my "preachings" should go back and reread the article at least a few times. You seem to have missed most of what I wrote in an attempt to make me look bad. I never said much of it made a HUGE difference, did I? And---eh, like I said, give me a while to type up a full response.
And another thing: what's this about my using "big words out of context"? Disparagement was completely in place!
Perhaps it wasn't the DEFINITIVE paintball guide, but all I wrote that for was to make the average joe paintballer think twice about his assumptions. If you'd like to write up an article like that worty of the money I got for it, go ahead! Gotta realize that paintball is not my main money-making industry, and therefore I don't have the loads of time some of you losers ( ) have to spend online arguing with somebody about moot points.
One last thing before I go: yes, I did do tests for all of the points I made, and I'll go into greater detail later. Also, why should you believe me? I've been playing for longer than some of you have had pubic hair, I went through every phase in the book (i.e. sniper and the like) so I know where the people who get something out of this are coming from, and above all, I have the research and tests to back it up. So, until YOU do the same, I think it's only fair that you keep your mouth(s) shut about things you have no conclusive proof about.
*Steps off soapbox*
Those of you who attempted to disprove my "preachings" should go back and reread the article at least a few times. You seem to have missed most of what I wrote in an attempt to make me look bad. I never said much of it made a HUGE difference, did I? And---eh, like I said, give me a while to type up a full response.
And another thing: what's this about my using "big words out of context"? Disparagement was completely in place!
Perhaps it wasn't the DEFINITIVE paintball guide, but all I wrote that for was to make the average joe paintballer think twice about his assumptions. If you'd like to write up an article like that worty of the money I got for it, go ahead! Gotta realize that paintball is not my main money-making industry, and therefore I don't have the loads of time some of you losers (
) have to spend online arguing with somebody about moot points. One last thing before I go: yes, I did do tests for all of the points I made, and I'll go into greater detail later. Also, why should you believe me? I've been playing for longer than some of you have had pubic hair, I went through every phase in the book (i.e. sniper and the like) so I know where the people who get something out of this are coming from, and above all, I have the research and tests to back it up. So, until YOU do the same, I think it's only fair that you keep your mouth(s) shut about things you have no conclusive proof about.
*Steps off soapbox*
Hmmm..... you just lost any cred with me.
The average age of the guys chatting about this mid to late 20's and we've all been playing a long time, so you're the one making assumptions here.
We are all up for instructive, reasoned debate, we actively encourage it but arrogant posters who's arguements boil down to "because I said so" I haven't got any time for.
I do agree with the principles of your point of view, but I disagree with the tone and the message you've chosen to use as it way too arrogant and all encompasing.
As for having too much time....... I (at least) was at work.......and bored.
And disparagement is used in the context of a communication that belittles somebody or something so I hardly think blowback (in your argument) just gives accuracy a stiff talking to.
A wise man once said. It is better to be thought a fool...
Than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Your come back post after asking for people to ask you questions and argue your post was frankly rude and rather immaturely put. So while you put together your nice detailed response I'll do one also
Your post was from a preaching all knowing attitude and quite frankly it's not completely correct. You gloss over issues and make assumptions, the likes of which you claim your post is trying to counter. It seems you didn't fall for all the hype but you did some of it.
How can you think Joe Paintballer will think twice about his assumptions when he can read some of your statements and immediately know you are wrong. He'll just think the rest of what you are saying is wrong also even though it isn't.
Are you KIDDING me? You are getting paid for that article? I hope not. You can get better sets of information from just searching around on the net. I can link you to many better articles on the discussion. Some of which DO come close to being the definitive article on paintball physics.
Since you wrote that article in the first place your a fine one to preach about being arguing moot points
There is no such thing in paintball. Human land mine is a better description.
You think you have been playing for longer than me, Beaker and Buddha/hotpoint have had pubic hair? LMAO you didn't just walk into another PBN/PBC forum full of 13yr olds when you decided to post here. I've been playing paintball for over 11 years, have travelled the world playing, written articles on and have designed stuff for the industry. I'm also a regular contributor to some of the more technical forums on paintball discussion. Not that any of that matters in this discussion. It's just to make a point that your comment is a bit stupid really when you don't know who you are dealing with.
where I got my degree in Engineering, so yes I do understand the physics behind all of this.
manike
Than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Your come back post after asking for people to ask you questions and argue your post was frankly rude and rather immaturely put. So while you put together your nice detailed response I'll do one also
Er I read and got the whole thing, I've been writing similar posts and articles on the net for over 4 years. I'm very familiar with the arguments. I wasn't attempting to make you look bad. Your last post has just done that quite effectively for you though. I was trying to show you the holes in your post and help you provide a better article/post.
Your post was from a preaching all knowing attitude and quite frankly it's not completely correct. You gloss over issues and make assumptions, the likes of which you claim your post is trying to counter. It seems you didn't fall for all the hype but you did some of it.
Too right it wasn't the definitive guide. BUT that's what you titled it yourself so how can you be suprised when people call you and say 'hang on a minute that's wrong'?
How can you think Joe Paintballer will think twice about his assumptions when he can read some of your statements and immediately know you are wrong. He'll just think the rest of what you are saying is wrong also even though it isn't.
Apart from the fact that makes you come across as a real prick.Originally posted by PaintballerX
If you'd like to write up an article like that worty of the money I got for it, go ahead! Gotta realize that paintball is not my main money-making industry, and therefore I don't have the loads of time some of you losers (
Are you KIDDING me? You are getting paid for that article? I hope not. You can get better sets of information from just searching around on the net. I can link you to many better articles on the discussion. Some of which DO come close to being the definitive article on paintball physics.
Since you wrote that article in the first place your a fine one to preach about being arguing moot points
Let's see the test and the results then. Put your money where your mouth is.
Tell me again why I should believe you? Sniper LMAO
There is no such thing in paintball. Human land mine is a better description. You think you have been playing for longer than me, Beaker and Buddha/hotpoint have had pubic hair? LMAO you didn't just walk into another PBN/PBC forum full of 13yr olds when you decided to post here. I've been playing paintball for over 11 years, have travelled the world playing, written articles on and have designed stuff for the industry. I'm also a regular contributor to some of the more technical forums on paintball discussion. Not that any of that matters in this discussion. It's just to make a point that your comment is a bit stupid really when you don't know who you are dealing with.
Let's see it then.
Been there done that, got the t-shirt and worn it out. I've been actively making similar posts on the net for over 4 years. I also studied paintball related issues/topics at University
where I got my degree in Engineering, so yes I do understand the physics behind all of this.You don't need to get off your soap box. You need to get off your high horse
manike
Good grief. Who the hell do you think you are?
I suggest you go back and search out some of the threads Manike, Beaker, Buddha 3 and even myself have contributed to on the subject of paintball physics and ballistics before spouting off. Manike can provide you with plenty of bench-test data for his own studies for a start
By the way I'm 28 and I've been playing since 1989. How long have you been 'balling?
Ok nothing as such to do with "hounding" BUT....your original post "seemed" to invite debate, you don't "seem" but "have" lost it. References to pubic hair and backing nothing else in way of proof makes the arguement you have posted null and void...provide the proof and then perhaps you won't get flamed...everyone has been to a greater extent been polite. Perhaps a little longer staying unregistered and you would have discovered that there is a great depth of knowledge on this forum...backed up with both personal exp. and in a lot of cases very higher learning degrees.
Your links to other sites/forums make interesting reading. The first to the review site has on the navigation bar Paintball GUNS !!! On this forum "we" have been trying for a long while to deter people from calling their MARKERS this...and it slowly seems to be working, get the odd AMMO post but that gets sorted out...there is enough bad press gained outside of the paintball press/industry without online sites stepping on their own feet. The forum you are a Moderator on has GUN forums !! come on get with the program and the final forum? doesn't even load.
Your links to other sites/forums make interesting reading. The first to the review site has on the navigation bar Paintball GUNS !!! On this forum "we" have been trying for a long while to deter people from calling their MARKERS this...and it slowly seems to be working, get the odd AMMO post but that gets sorted out...there is enough bad press gained outside of the paintball press/industry without online sites stepping on their own feet. The forum you are a Moderator on has GUN forums !! come on get with the program and the final forum? doesn't even load.