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OhhhNooo

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Let me get this straight; you watched them steal some kids paint and not only didn't say anything, but punished yourself by giving away yours. If that is how it played out, you are a wuss of the highest order and need to stop worrying about others and work on yourself. If you don't stop a criminal, you condone the crime. Good job, wuss.

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Basically why get in a fight over paint? Something so stupid like that. Might as well be nice to a kid and give him some paint. Sounds like you have anger problems.
 

CROOKED-POPO

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Because it's not about paint. It's about the fact that he's a thief and you're a wuss. No one said you had to fight him, only confront him. If that's too much for you to do, please remove yourself from society before someone actually has to depend on you for decisive action.:mad:
 

Gyroscope

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Yeah, it would have been morally correct to confront the thief. I understand, however that a lot of people fail morality tests all the time without actually being bad people. The thing is, there will be opportunities to improve upon your response, Stallion. Keep associating with humanity and you'll see it again.

I have been stolen from on a paintball site. Hard to imagine that there were no witnesses, too, as it was a scenario game with 350 people rotating on and off the field... only in my case it was a tricked out autococker that I had nursed from an unreliable little paint chopper to an instrument of the righteousness of my purpose (to take away armbands and make fools walk).

This brought the issue of theft into a particularly personal light.

I have given a lot of thought into how to insure that I get to live in the most just and peaceful community possible, and I have a modest proposal for those who catch a thief plying his or her vocation. It will work even if you are not bigger than the thief, although if they are arme with a real weapon, it might be dangerous. A pacifist can even apply my method. The Stallion should have.

The procedure is reliant on there being someone, anyone within earshot. It goes like this: shout, as loud as you can, "STOP, THIEF!" This will bring the attention of all the people around. The majority of people within earshot are most likely not bad people, just people who sometimes fail moral tests. They will help. They constitute society and they have the power to ostracize people who violate our collective idea of what is right. Such a collective idea exists, it is just broad and vague, and it includes "stealing is wrong."

Most of those who fail their moral tests, like the individual who started this thread, fail because they do not realize that they are being tested. By identifying the situation for them, almost every person will choose wisely.

Then we can throw the thief into the river and kick 'em when they crawl out.:cool:
 

CROOKED-POPO

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That is "Hue and Cry" and I agree 100 percent that it is a good method for stopping thieves or helping to get them apprehended. Too bad nowadays people go for the "See no evil, hear no evil, cause I stuck my fingers in my ears and turned away" method.
 

OhhhNooo

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I think I did what most people Wouldnt have done. I didnt walk away and forget the thing. I gave the kid my tube with my paint. So that situation equaled out. He lote a tube with paint but gained a tube of paint so it equaled out. This wasnt a crime. This was some guy being a dick to a kid. See in todays society a lot of people view this as a crime. It wasnt. Just a guy being a dick. And he got what he lost. Why should I make a scene if everything is o.k? no reason to.
 

CROOKED-POPO

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What do you mean it wasn't a crime? Your the one who said he stole the kids paint. That's a crime. I love your twisted self-serving logic on this one. According to you, this guy could kill my kid, but if you come along and bonk my wife and get her pregnant, then it all equals out. Well thank God for you equalizers out there. Maybe we should just get rid of courts and cops and everyone can come to you to get equalled out. JEEZ. Just admit you are a wuss and you wussed out and the only reason you gave the kid paint is because you felt guilty for wussing out. That's the truth.
 

OhhhNooo

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Oh Crooked you silly silly man you,

People dieing and a tube of paint are different. If I saw a murder happen Ill act on it. This was a guy being a dick and stole a kids tube of paint. Hmmmm lets see Murder Vs Tube of paint stolen. I can see where you got confused cause their linked so closely together. Tube isnt alive the paint isnt alive and all together its like worth 15 bucks. This is a little thing. And I dont focus on the little things. This was once again a guy just being a dick to a kid. Christ man you are warped. Thats not how I see the world at all. If I witness a murder I dont go " oh gee wizz a murder, well it doesnt matter Im sure someone will give birth to a baby so it all evens out". This is PAINT and a TUBE. Little thing. A car getting stolen Ill act on it. How thick headed can one man be.

Ill also be the bigger man here. Admins I apologize for this stupid thread. Some people are just out there. Fellow P-ballers im sorry also. You had to read this thing. Admins if you want just delete this.

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Really,

OhhhNooo, You did the same thing I would have done, not because Im a wuss, because why make a seen out of something you can replace with great ease? And plus, at least he did something, alot of people would have stole more tubes of the kids, then at least he didn't steal anymore tubes. he replaced it, and yeah, the Kid thing, kids are irreplaceable(sp??), cars are hard to replace and Id do the same thing, only later come up to him and say why'd you steal the kids tube? Of course he'd deny he did that but he'd think twice next time since someone saw him, he wouldn't want to getinto trouble, most peopel who say "I dont Care about getting into trouble" really do care and think twice next time.
 

guppy

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Hold on a mo!

This sort of **** happens. Everywhere. Including paintball. Personally i'm with OhhhNoo on this one. I dont think he acted like a wuss at all. I think giving the kid his paint was a kind act. IMO people who show kindness aren't wusses. Well done m8!
 

CROOKED-POPO

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I never said that giving anyone was an unkind act or kind people are wusses. What I said was people who allow people to commit crimes in front of them and do nothing to stop them are wusses. If you are so convinced that it was such a little trifle of an incident to begin with, then it certainly would not have taken much effort to rectify the situation. The fact is, it was a big deal and that is why you chose not to confront the criminal because he scared you. In your heart of hearts you were afraid that he would say,"Yeah, I took it. What are you going to do about it?" At which point you were afraid that you would faint dead away. You are a namby-pamby flower toter. As for my example, it was extreme to illustrate that crime is a concept, not a single act. You cannot turn a blind eye to one and punish another. Criminals are criminals and do what they can get away with, when they can get away with it. Of course the two acts are not the same in the effect they have, but are in the mentality with which they are committed. Because that is so, both must be confronted with an equally uniform mentality of prevention, detection, and punishment. If you can't stand up when it's a little thing, how will you manage when it isn't? And you call me thick-headed.