PGI under attack !!
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As for all the weapons he's got? well he's never used them has he..... unlike the nutcases leading our fine countries.
Seeing the obvious...
2)Umm lots...Al-Qaida prisoners in Gitmo have already confirmed chemical weapons training in Iraq..While not a direct link,we know Al-Qaida operates in Iraq and all we need is Saddam to give him a few liters of VX to make make Sept.11 look like a picnic..
His undemocratic rule
And Duff,dont come running when in 3 weeks ,France and all our other Allies hop on for the ride...Once our Allies oil investments are all sorted out,we'll have a whole coalition of the willing knocking on Saddams door...
1)what difference does it make where he got them from??If he drops them on Britain are you gonna blame us??Stop shifting blame from where the real problem lies...
2)Umm lots...Al-Qaida prisoners in Gitmo have already confirmed chemical weapons training in Iraq..While not a direct link,we know Al-Qaida operates in Iraq and all we need is Saddam to give him a few liters of VX to make make Sept.11 look like a picnic..
YES we do know he has them..U.N. Resolution 1441 that was just passed by 15 nations says he has them and that he has to disarm..Where are you getting your information from??Go to the U.N. web page and read the resolution and then come back and tell me different...I think you might be a little disinformed on the situation at hand..
Did we invade the soveriegn nation of Kuwait..Once again I never here you lay any blame on Saddam Hussien..Once again its are fault when someone else does something stupid..And you damn well know those sanctions could have been lifted at any time if Saddam complied..Ask yourself why he would give up $56 billion in oil revenue by not complying with sanction after the Gulf War..Could it possibly be because he's hinding something because I cant certainyly think of another reason...
His undemocratic rule
I wont because its probably one of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard...In 96 the Palestinians were offered about 95% of what they said they wanted and turned it down..Now we all know what they really want is the complete annihalation of Israel..Ever notice that Israel only reataliates when a suicide bomber walks into a pizza shop and willingly kill innocent civilians..But I never hear you mention that...
Did you really just compare Saddam to Bush??Ill take a shady business deal any day over gassings,rape,torture,mutilation,and murder any day of the week..Please stop with the ignorant comments...
Once again your misinformed..France,and Russia all have been given gaurantees that thier oil dealings with Iraq will be honored after a post saddam Iraq...Iraq oil resevers run at about 3% of thier capabilities right now..It would take them about 10 to 15 years to get to levels that would benifit U.S interests..And whats to say a Democratized Iraq would give anything to the U.S..I remember liberating Kuwait and not getting a drop more than what we get from them now...You oil theories are a wash..And Duff,terrorists are going to strike whether or not we invade Iraq,and whether or not we resolve the Palestinian issue..They hate you,me and everyone else in the free world not like them...
World logic shows those who use weapons of mass destruction for terror and death and not as deterants need to be dealt with swiftly and justly...Last timeI checked,we were the good guys..And I never heard any of you complain about regime change in Yugoslavia..Was it cause you all like d Clinton??Im really starting to believe its your hatred for Bush and Blair that are causing alot of the problem you have with this situation..
I believe the Palestine issue does need to be resolved but only after Hamas,Hezbollah,and Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade find the time to stop murdering innocent people for thier enjoyment..Then maybe then can live side by side in relative peace..
And Duff,dont come running when in 3 weeks ,France and all our other Allies hop on for the ride...Once our Allies oil investments are all sorted out,we'll have a whole coalition of the willing knocking on Saddams door...
Theres a whole bunch of Kurds in the North willing to disagree with you on that one...PM me your email and i'll mail you pictures of Kurdish children gassed in the streets...And you guys try to argue ousting him is a bad idea??
Yeah, you stick by your guns, don't let the fact that every other major power disagrees change your mind.
Look, if it's vengeance we are after, why can't we just admit it? it's easy enough saying war is wrong when it's not you that took a spanking. The problem is trying to justify it, you can't justify killing thousands because they started it. So don't try, he's not going to use his weapons, he's not stupid. So "preventing his use of weaons of mass distructon" isn't appropriate, so why not just bite the bullet and say "we want him for what he's done, and we are big enouh to do it", anything else is just empty words.
Look, if it's vengeance we are after, why can't we just admit it? it's easy enough saying war is wrong when it's not you that took a spanking. The problem is trying to justify it, you can't justify killing thousands because they started it. So don't try, he's not going to use his weapons, he's not stupid. So "preventing his use of weaons of mass distructon" isn't appropriate, so why not just bite the bullet and say "we want him for what he's done, and we are big enouh to do it", anything else is just empty words.
Originally posted by JoseDominguez
As for all the weapons he's got? well he's never used them has he..... unlike the nutcases leading our fine countries.
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Theres a whole bunch of Kurds in the North willing to disagree with you on that one...PM me your email and i'll mail you pictures of Kurdish children gassed in the streets...And you guys try to argue ousting him is a bad idea??
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See, empty justifiation, there are many worse offenders than Saddam, but no-ones on their case, and I agree, what he did to the Kurdish children was horrific, nearly as bad as agent orange or the h-bomb.
You can't justify it that way, just blow him away and stop preaching to the choir. It's not the intention that bothers me, it's the fact that you're trying to justify it on moral grounds, he's a nutter, so blow him up, just try not to take out as many allied troops as you did last time, just four canadians so far, and we haven't even started.
Honestly, it's not like he's hard to get to, have a whip round for my plane fare and I'll do it for you, I've got a pointy stick round here somewhere.
Because, honestly, I would happily condemn him for supporting 9.11, I'm not bothered if he had anything to do with it, but he seemed pleased, anyone impressed by it is a waste of air.
As for all the weapons he's got? well he's never used them has he..... unlike the nutcases leading our fine countries.
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Theres a whole bunch of Kurds in the North willing to disagree with you on that one...PM me your email and i'll mail you pictures of Kurdish children gassed in the streets...And you guys try to argue ousting him is a bad idea??
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See, empty justifiation, there are many worse offenders than Saddam, but no-ones on their case, and I agree, what he did to the Kurdish children was horrific, nearly as bad as agent orange or the h-bomb.
You can't justify it that way, just blow him away and stop preaching to the choir. It's not the intention that bothers me, it's the fact that you're trying to justify it on moral grounds, he's a nutter, so blow him up, just try not to take out as many allied troops as you did last time, just four canadians so far, and we haven't even started.
Honestly, it's not like he's hard to get to, have a whip round for my plane fare and I'll do it for you, I've got a pointy stick round here somewhere.
Because, honestly, I would happily condemn him for supporting 9.11, I'm not bothered if he had anything to do with it, but he seemed pleased, anyone impressed by it is a waste of air.
Jose,its not so much about him using them,its about him giving them to people who want nothing more than to eradicate the U.S. from this planet..Now while I wont disagree that there are some hard feelings from the last gulf war,the problem is he's been told disarm and wont..And what do you mean major allies...France has about $60 Billion in oil contracts there..Of course they dont want war..China will keep silent as usual and the Russians will follow suit in a few weeks..The German situation is just wacky..But now you know why they will never have veto power in the U.N...Really France shouldnt be thier either as their just old remnants of WW2 and us trying to stop Communism from spreading in Europe..But ill leave you with this again and Jose,I really would like for you to try to explain where this stuff is ok because the U.N. says he cant have it and if he decides to keep it war is inevitable..
1)550 artillery shells filled with mustard gas unaccounted for
2)2,210 gallons of Anthrax unaccounted for
3)6,500 bombs filled with chemical agents unaccounted for
4)15,000 rockets capable of delivering nerve agents unaccounted for
And remember,this is about disarming,not inspections..We already know he has it..Now we want to get rid of it
1)550 artillery shells filled with mustard gas unaccounted for
2)2,210 gallons of Anthrax unaccounted for
3)6,500 bombs filled with chemical agents unaccounted for
4)15,000 rockets capable of delivering nerve agents unaccounted for
And remember,this is about disarming,not inspections..We already know he has it..Now we want to get rid of it
Re: Seeing the obvious...
but i believe this thread was about the attack on PGI not on international politics
I study geological economics and i can tell you that the US does want to remove Iraq government as iraqs government wants to put their oil reserves onto the market. the US don't want this as it will make the meager reserves in the US price drop considerably.
but i believe this thread was about the attack on PGI not on international politics