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Cmon Jose,ya gotta be smarter than that!!

Originally posted by JoseDominguez
Just out of interest: 1 nuke will kill thousands, anthrax requires direct contagion from the purified media (exposure to the powder), it's difficult to produce in a "weapon" form and it's not transmitted person to person. Smallpox is nasty and communicable, but easy to control in a developed country as it's easy to spot, also it's only communicable whilst the blisters are developing. So, no the three aren't the same. I'll take my chances with anthrax thanks, as most cases are dermatological and just give you a rash. Skin problems aren't a big issue when you've evaporated by a nuke, it tends to be in a pool at your feet.
Since you think that those weapons would have a minimal effect if used as weapons ill try to break it down as best i can for you..

1)VX-probably the most toxic of all chemical weapons..A 15 milligram drop will kill and adult male in minutes if inhaled..last time we checked,there was 200 tons missing in Iraq...Cocktail antidote if administered in the first few minutes and directly to the heart..
2)Botulin-5 micrograms is lethal with complete muscle paralysis and respiratory failure in minutes..5,066 gallons missing in Iraq..
3)Smallpox-Highly contagious my man..Coughing,sneezing,hand shakes,clothing,talking,and many other ways to spread quickly and efficiently when blisters aren't present..2 week incubation period and a 40% chance of death if infected...Can spread in any climate or season... CDC estimates show 10 infected could easily spread in a major city to 20-30,000 people within a month...
4)Anthrax-Correct,anthrax not weaponized hardly causes a scare,but we know he's been trying to weaponize it since the late 80's and theres good indication that he has..20 milligrams of weaponized anthrax could easily kill a full grown man...Forgot the exact number but also a ****load unaccounted for..

Now yes Jose,a nuclear weapon is definately more effective than chemical and biological weapons but with the right planning and enough amounts,they could easily amount to almost the exact same devastation..My country,after 9/11,isnt even close to being prepared for a bio-chem attack and the death toll would be astronomical if one occured..And its not just us im concerned about..Its Kuwait,Turkey,Saudi Arabia,Jordan,and a whole slew of Allies that could easily be the next target of Saddam..



Originally posted by JoseDominguez
As for your "giving him the weapons was wrong" being "like blaming the shootings on video games and music" no, it's nothing like that, it's more like blaming a black-market gun dealer for providing an unbalanced school-kid with a 9mm. I mean, was Saddam OK back then? did he have a personal problem in 1990 that made him a bad man? Or did he lie on his "fitness to own a fire-arm" application.

and "...Those weapons would have found their way to Saddam whether they came from us or not... "
Superb logic, he's a nutter, sell him some guns, 'cos he'll just get them somewhere else otherwise.
Marvelous, I'm sure that will be a consolation to the families of anyone shot with them.

However, we do know he is hiding weapons of mass destruction, as we sold him them. He should do like we do and wave them about a bit.


This is the last time im wasting my breath on this...When we handed him those pre-cursors we had no idea he was a wack job..Back in the 80's,Saddam was oppressive to his country..We really didnt find out he was a sociopath till he invaded Kuwait...When the Iran-Iraq war broke out in the 80's(we were Iraq's silent allie)Iran started to demolish Iraq's lines...Seeing if Iraq fell,that our Allies would have fallen next,we took it upon ourselves to make sure that didnt happen..We imported weapons and supplies and also pre-cursors for anthrax,botulin,and plague...he already had chemical weapons and used them efficiently to wipe out Irans suicide lines to end the war...So no,at the time we handed him the pre-cursors we had no idea what lay ahead of us some 20 years later..So you and Duff's handing a gun to a madman's logic just doesnt fly,plain and simple...So enough with it already cuz it sounds moronic every time you float it out there..If we gave it to him 5 years ago i would think ya got a point but ya dont now so just drop it because your wrong ..We just hoped his regime would adapt like the others but to no avail here we are today..Just remember,theres alot of countries with WOMD,its just Iraq that threatens with them...Well North Korea 2 but thats another reason wiping out saddam is a good idea..





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duffistuta

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Truce?

6, It's clear we're going to joust back and forth until we're old men, so I propose a truce...if you're in Miami for the Super-7s finals then we'll do this over a few beers instead, deal?

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rancid

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It's only one thread for starters. It has been basically a civilized debate and the rule of thumb for SYB was allowing some leeway for the odd non-PB thread.
Besides, it's all Duffy's fault! :D



Oops. Sorry. Didn't realise the rules. :rolleyes:

So, R, where ya been? Spent the long winter in the root cellar (as they'd say in the Midwest)?


I've lost my charm, patience and humility. I had to go.
 

headrock6

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Truce?

Originally posted by duffistuta
6, It's clear we're going to joust back and forth until we're old men, so I propose a truce...if you're in Miami for the Super-7s finals then we'll do this over a few beers instead, deal?

:p

Sounds good...But im only 23 so would that mean I would win out on the debate due to default??:)


But Miami it is then....See ya then...

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I'm only 14, so what it means is you have to buy me beer...
 

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Cmon Jose,ya gotta be smarter than that!!

You say that, then you agree with everything I said, by the way I have a biomedical science degree and concentrated on immunoloogy, I'm now a science teacher so I do know what I'm talking about.:p
 

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Originally posted by duffistuta
I'm only 14, so what it means is you have to buy me beer...

Actually im gonna be 26..that was a slip of the finger.....But to shave 3 years off would be nice..My bones are starting to creak a bit..And somehow it doesnt suprise me that a 14 year old would be in charge of PGI:p


Jose-since me and Duff have willingly accepted a truce,I'll extend one to you also...The plain and simple fact is that we all want the same thing only seperated by different means of accomplishing those goals so heres to world peace..

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rancid

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Originally posted by JoseDominguez
Cmon Jose,ya gotta be smarter than that!!

You say that, then you agree with everything I said, by the way I have a biomedical science degree and concentrated on immunoloogy, I'm now a science teacher so I do know what I'm talking about.:p
You're a teacher!

Jesus. With all your tale-telling and **** stirring I had you down for about 12 years old. Sorry mate.