i feel PGI do there bit and should be called this but there is a market and you and all people at pgi will probably not mind because of the new mag cos it's paintball and were all a big family trying to expand the sport.
PGI (uk)
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pgi/pbuk
Robbo,nobody is slagging you,pgi or anyone else! We read pgi cos we want to! Its a good mag!Thats why I pay for it every month!Thats why I've still got all my old copies for reference!
This started as a comment on the lack of U.K. coverage and maybe a bit of constructive criticizm but now its turned into a slanging match. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought you people would want to hear what U.K. readers think.
Why has all this wound you up?
Robbo,nobody is slagging you,pgi or anyone else! We read pgi cos we want to! Its a good mag!Thats why I pay for it every month!Thats why I've still got all my old copies for reference!
This started as a comment on the lack of U.K. coverage and maybe a bit of constructive criticizm but now its turned into a slanging match. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought you people would want to hear what U.K. readers think.
Why has all this wound you up?
pgi/pbuk
Maz, I suppose coz we have heard and answered this crap a thousand times before !!!!!
Robbo
Originally posted by wild turkey maz
Robbo,nobody is slagging you,pgi or anyone else! We read pgi cos we want to! Its a good mag!Thats why I pay for it every month!Thats why I've still got all my old copies for reference!
This started as a comment on the lack of U.K. coverage and maybe a bit of constructive criticizm but now its turned into a slanging match. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought you people would want to hear what U.K. readers think.
Why has all this wound you up?
Maz, I suppose coz we have heard and answered this crap a thousand times before !!!!!
Robbo
pgi/pbuk
Well I'll take your word for that as I've never seen any discussion on this before.
Wierd though how a conversation turns into a full-on handbag fight so quickly!
Well I'll take your word for that as I've never seen any discussion on this before.
Wierd though how a conversation turns into a full-on handbag fight so quickly!
heeehee Robbo, u bite every time!!! c'mon guys settle down, i dont wanna have to get my bible out........!!!
c'mon guys settle down, i dont wanna have to get my bible out........!!!
Personally i love PGI i think teams in the uk should thinks its a privaledge to appear in it except for teams like Nexus/shockwave
I particulaly like Jack wood reviews on markers and Robbo write up on tournaments.. well done guys,
I think genarally as Robbo said most paintball is played in the US at a higher level.. And basically what it means is that Us teams in the uk need to start working harder to become better and get the credit which we deserve,nd hench more coverage in pgi
Thanks Guys for doing an fantastic Jobs with Pgi
and good look to however is running the new mag im sure you will do well
steven
I particulaly like Jack wood reviews on markers and Robbo write up on tournaments.. well done guys,
I think genarally as Robbo said most paintball is played in the US at a higher level.. And basically what it means is that Us teams in the uk need to start working harder to become better and get the credit which we deserve,nd hench more coverage in pgi
Thanks Guys for doing an fantastic Jobs with Pgi
and good look to however is running the new mag im sure you will do well
steven
pgi/pbuk
Have to say I expected more feedback from some of the comments I made, thought I was going to get flame grilled!
Paul
It comes round every 5 months or so!
Have to say I expected more feedback from some of the comments I made, thought I was going to get flame grilled!
Paul
There seems to be a trend at the moment of people telling other people how to run their business.
I think it's fair to say that I know more than most how to run a successful paintball magazine. We've (PGI) been going now for about 14 years. In that time we've seen many, many mags come and go. The reason many have folded is cos they are 'one man bands' - ie a publication produced by enthusiasts, and when the money don't come in they disappear. PGI is produced by a company that has 24 other magazines and a fair frew quid in its pocket. When the UK paintball industry crashed (a number of years ago) Paintball Games Int lost a lot of money - at one point, we were losing £10k a month and we ran the mag at this kind of loss for seven or eight months before we turned it round (thanks to Robbo and Duffy and Ant). We were lucky cos the other mags in the group bailed it out. (You want to get yourself a copy of Teddybear International, and write a letter of thanks to the editor and ad manager - cos they've put more into paintball than most of you reading this!)
Why am I saying this? Well, I would like to see PBUK work, but the key is to be realistic. If you think this is going to be a full blown 132 pp glossy mag, with newsstand disrtribution, then the publishers need to have enough money to suffer the losses - my estimate would be £80-100k a year indefinately. If the publishers are to produce a tight, limited pagination, subscriber-only mag, and they can work their finances to support say 350 subscribers then you might have summat. As a company, we couldn't afford to do it; as a group of enthusiasts working out of a rent-free office in the evenings... well, it might work, but I fear for only a short time. Nevertheless, good luck and hats off for putting your money where your mouth is.
I think it's fair to say that I know more than most how to run a successful paintball magazine. We've (PGI) been going now for about 14 years. In that time we've seen many, many mags come and go. The reason many have folded is cos they are 'one man bands' - ie a publication produced by enthusiasts, and when the money don't come in they disappear. PGI is produced by a company that has 24 other magazines and a fair frew quid in its pocket. When the UK paintball industry crashed (a number of years ago) Paintball Games Int lost a lot of money - at one point, we were losing £10k a month and we ran the mag at this kind of loss for seven or eight months before we turned it round (thanks to Robbo and Duffy and Ant). We were lucky cos the other mags in the group bailed it out. (You want to get yourself a copy of Teddybear International, and write a letter of thanks to the editor and ad manager - cos they've put more into paintball than most of you reading this!)
Why am I saying this? Well, I would like to see PBUK work, but the key is to be realistic. If you think this is going to be a full blown 132 pp glossy mag, with newsstand disrtribution, then the publishers need to have enough money to suffer the losses - my estimate would be £80-100k a year indefinately. If the publishers are to produce a tight, limited pagination, subscriber-only mag, and they can work their finances to support say 350 subscribers then you might have summat. As a company, we couldn't afford to do it; as a group of enthusiasts working out of a rent-free office in the evenings... well, it might work, but I fear for only a short time. Nevertheless, good luck and hats off for putting your money where your mouth is.