PGI Tournament Coverage

[Robbo]

You gotta get off your arses

Originally posted by Al Woods
I DO agree with some points about the lack of coverage. Birmingham indoor was a cool tourney and was well organised and the fields were awesome yet was never featured. The Diablo cup was a pretty big tourney up at Elsham in Jan, again, was not featured. It would be nice to see a regular spot for a couple of GOOD UK/European tourneys per issue but lets be honest here, how many of us has actually written about an event and sent the fella in?? Exactly.
Last month (or maybe the month before) I wrote an article about sweetspotting, IT GOT IN. This month Scutty from our lot wrote an article about playing back centre, IT GOT IN.
Does anyone see the pattern here??
You write, you read.
Simple.

Al, help me out here mate, this is the problem I got, u say the indoor has yet to be covered.
Well, this is what I need to know, we all agree, we can't just put tournament reports in for the sake of the people who attended, this would be just economic and journalistic madness.
That said, now we are in the process of, as a magazine and an industry, in trying to push this sport forward in all areas. Do you think that reporting on a tournament that was effectively held in a cow shed with facilities that verge on the archaic and dilapidated, is a good thing for the sport as a whole ?

Is this where we want to see UK paintball portrayed ?
Or do we wanna concentrate on events like the Campaign Cup, the 'Simply the Best' tournaments of Bully and Payney and so on ?

If I am wrong tell me please cuz I am beginning to believe I, and others in the magazine are living on another planet.

Now if these peeps want coverage of UK Events to the extent they want, then the answer is simple, join the UKPSF, go to Steve Bull and hi-jack his UKPSF publication and put them in there.
Eeeezzy Peeeezy Lemon Squeeezy !!!!

Let me know and address your answer to Robbo, Duff, Ant, Nick, Justin, Matt, Rab on Planet Uranus

 

[TJ Lambini]

If I remember rightly

there are gonna be Brit tourney reports going up at p8ntballer as soon as people send em in...Mr Big told me he already has a Zap Indoor report waiting to come online, but he ain't had anything else in from y'all.

And the 'make tha mag bigger, we'd pay 25c more.'..fraid it don't tend to work thatawa in magazine land. An as has been said before 20+ teams = 100 or so players...that ain't very many people in a mag that's on sale in 40+ countries man...

peace

 

[Flash-Bugout]

The only problem with writing an article on an event is that it would be quite a one-sided story unless the author turned up only to watch and write the report.

Maybe other teams are different, but I'm usually far to involved in what's going on with my own team to notice others, and the games they played.

 

[Al Woods]

'Bo

U got a good point there big guy. Cow sheds don't really compare to the X' games now do they? BUT I think a large number of UK teams feel they work at hard at some of these higher profile events, whether they look nice or not. Now I'm a sucker for good looking stuff and I totally agree with you on that scale 500% but I suppose a two pager here and there (not in the same issue obviously) would be good for teams' morale and stuff plus it would boost the profile of the event for the future. The venue of the indoor is a bit ugly but the fields were pretty cool AND the fact that these cool fields were squeezed into such a small venue is a plus point for the organisers surely and the gameplay that was whupped out onto these fileds is a plus point for the teams that entered, by the way, we were truly awesome on the 2nd day (hehe).

The idea of perhaps writing some 'smaller' tourney reviews for Bully's WORD would be great, perhaps even make the word into more of a proper 'zine than a newsletter would work too. I think I'll have a word with the lord Bull about that one.

Erm......where was I? Oh yeah, the future of our sport is bright, colourful and looking more like an extreme sport than ever before and for us teams to whinge every now and then about coverage of the smaller events may seem like we're shooting ourselves in the feet at times BUT at the end of the day it us the teams that need to feel a part of the sport and when we're excluded when we think we deserved a mention (again, not every tin pot tourney should be mentioned) it kinda gets a bit frustrating after a while. Really, I think the only reason you guys get a lot of the flak is because (a) you're at the forefront of the sport, (b) you're accessible and (c) you actually interact with the teams instead of ingnoring us.

The organisers of these events should worry about the events not getting mentioned just as much as the teams, if not more. The indoor would be even more awesome if it was re-located. Bigger venue?? A bit of self publicity wouldn't go amiss either. If you think about it, the organisers (in general) of events that are potentially big and exciting should make more of 'em for the teams AND themselves. THEY need to push things forward, not the teams.

Did I rant a bit then??

 

[Bob Long]

Yee-Haw!

Chill out y'all...this Darm fella is making a joke, cuz ain't no-one being serious could say that being written about makes ya play better...that's just darn stoopid.

I'll tell y'all why we're better than you - cos we eat pork n grits! Yee-haw.

Damn I'm hungry, I'm gonna go get me a burrito.

PGI - y'all keep on doing what you're doing cos it's a mighty fine mag y'all has got there...specially when it's fried in a little tabasco!

Yee-Haw!

 

[Tony]

Re: You gotta get off your arses

Originally posted by Robbo



Now if these peeps want coverage of UK Events to the extent they want, then the answer is simple, join the UKPSF, go to Steve Bull and hi-jack his UKPSF publication and put them in there.
Eeeezzy Peeeezy Lemon Squeeezy !!!!

Like the Big Man say's, Bully is screaming out for articles and reports for the UKPSF magazine.



To be honest, I like the way PGI is at the moment. I like reading up on the big US tournaments, what's going on over there. Of course more UK coverage would be nice, but I'm sure it's just not economically viable. As Robbo said, the big UK tournaments get covered, and if teams want to be seen in the magazine, they should use the smaller, uncovered tournaments to improve their game to the extent where they do well in the covered tournaments.

Unfortuantly, you can't please all of the people all of the time. I feel PGI tries to please most of the people most of the time, and it does a pretty good job of it, in my opinion.

 

[Mr Big]

Thanks Tony
I just have one question for Darm and friends...
Do you play events just so you can get recognition in a magazine? Is that really why you do it? Really really? What about playing because you enjoy shooting the crap out of each other and meeting likeminded ballers? Time to sort out your priorities.

I know plenty of people who compete at quite a high level in a variety of other sports, and I know one thing for sure: they certainly don't do it to get a minute of fame. They deserve the recognition more than many of you, but do they complain when an event they competed in don't get a mention in a magazine? I'll give you one guess.

Anyway, I have a report on the Birmingham Indoor that will be going live as soon as I've checked it to make sure Darm doesn't get a mention and then you lot can start sending me stuff.

The issue of having a one-sided report because it comes from a team that played really isn't an issue. I personally enjoy reading those reports than 'onlooker' reports. There are usually more interesting stories.

So there.

 

[Bob Long]

Go Girlfriend

Way to tell em missy big...my cousin jimbob is a champion bear wrestler, and he vever gets a darn mention in Bear Wrestling Times, but he don't complain...now where'd I put that burrito?

Yee-Haw!

 

[Robbo]

'Bo

Originally posted by Al Woods
U got a good point there big guy. Cow sheds don't really compare to the X' games now do they? BUT I think a large number of UK teams feel they work at hard at some of these higher profile events, whether they look nice or not. Now I'm a sucker for good looking stuff and I totally agree with you on that scale 500% but I suppose a two pager here and there (not in the same issue obviously) would be good for teams' morale and stuff plus it would boost the profile of the event for the future. The venue of the indoor is a bit ugly but the fields were pretty cool AND the fact that these cool fields were squeezed into such a small venue is a plus point for the organisers surely and the gameplay that was whupped out onto these fileds is a plus point for the teams that entered, by the way, we were truly awesome on the 2nd day (hehe).

The idea of perhaps writing some 'smaller' tourney reviews for Bully's WORD would be great, perhaps even make the word into more of a proper 'zine than a newsletter would work too. I think I'll have a word with the lord Bull about that one.

Erm......where was I? Oh yeah, the future of our sport is bright, colourful and looking more like an extreme sport than ever before and for us teams to whinge every now and then about coverage of the smaller events may seem like we're shooting ourselves in the feet at times BUT at the end of the day it us the teams that need to feel a part of the sport and when we're excluded when we think we deserved a mention (again, not every tin pot tourney should be mentioned) it kinda gets a bit frustrating after a while. Really, I think the only reason you guys get a lot of the flak is because (a) you're at the forefront of the sport, (b) you're accessible and (c) you actually interact with the teams instead of ingnoring us.

The organisers of these events should worry about the events not getting mentioned just as much as the teams, if not more. The indoor would be even more awesome if it was re-located. Bigger venue?? A bit of self publicity wouldn't go amiss either. If you think about it, the organisers (in general) of events that are potentially big and exciting should make more of 'em for the teams AND themselves. THEY need to push things forward, not the teams.

Did I rant a bit then??

Al, good post, I don't wanna labour any points here but the morale of some or other team ain't our problem, if any team's morale is so fragile that it needs massaging by PGI then they need to get into another sport.
I mean, just suppose Bexleyheath Rangers ( A local soccer side to me) called up the editor of one of these high flying soccer mags and said, 'Erm excuse me, could you not just concentrate on the top clubs like Man U, Spurs and Liverpool and write about us please coz our morale is low'.......U get the piccy I hope.

As for the tournament itself, in my opinion, it's a frikkin disgrace, people may well have enjoyed playing it but that was in spite of the conditions not because of them.
I couldn’t believe teams were asked to pay more for that than a Millennium event ..................and the prizes offered ?
I am gonna puke, hold on !!!!
Bbbaaarrrrrfff !!!!!!!!!!!

It is testament to the paintballers of the UK that they could ignore such cheap and nasty conditions and try to make it into some sort of success.

Field size was the way it was because it was held in a frikkin cowshed for God's sake not because the organisers had designed it that way, they were forced by circumstance not design to have the fields that size.
It was you players who overcame this sham not the organisers.

It's also a sad indictment of our tournament scene if we have people coming on here extolling the virtues of frikkin Emmerdale Paintball.

Al, we deserve better than this mate, much better than this and with a more mature and professional approach to tournament promotion, will come the justifed magazine coverage.
I for one, would hate to see Brit Paintball portrayed as a farmyard spectacle just because we ain't got nuttin better to put in and satisfy our tournament players.

After all, this is the country who gave the world Hyperball, the Campaign Cup, The Angel, the Millennium, Mayhem, PGI ( ) and so much more.

We need better tournaments for both the player and the industry...Period...No argument !!!

Robbo

 

[Dave S ECI]

About the indoor, in two years the entry fee increased by 50%, inflation is nowhere near that high.