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rob_evanson

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Porn

Did someone mention porn! I'll be there.

All joking aside, instead of trying to get Uk national events onto PGI, which for all porposes I agree with Robbo will never make the pages of PGI, why doesn't someone create a UK web site covering them. The time taken to create a website nowadayz is quite minimal, and you don't incur the same overheads as a magazine. Hows that for a solution!!!
 

Sid

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Be Nice

We have a fantastic division mate so be nice, beers in the Cricket bar on Saturday night, hopefully it will get PGI coverage, even if it's on the net, it's a step forwards rather than backwards mare, we need to look at the bigger picture, hold on, maybe Steve da Man Bull can start covering the UK scene in the Word.....hhhmmm

22:15 and I'm still thinking out loud, neither wonder my Wifes wants a divorce.......

Excellent idea Rob...........leave it with me, I don't mind being the voice for the little people, I mean, we all know the Scots have the biggest balls, cos we never get laid ;)
 

rob_evanson

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Melons

Have a word with steve, I mean the UKPSF website had a few pictures of the South Park big game last year, why not spend a little more time on a UK only section, I'm sure the site would benifit from more hit's and they could get a bit of sponsership from it.

Oh yeah don't talk to me about not getting laid and havin big balls, I win that award. My wifes preggers and I'm on a sex ban.......I have one word for you my good man...MELONS.
 

Sid

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hhhmmm again

All my responses come from hhhmmm cos it's ma way of saying WHAT!!!!!

Jono...I agree with you that BIG Millennium Events sell mags, but, oh no I have a but.......where is the Novice £400+ Entry Fee PR...hhhmmmm 1 paragraph...we have to fork out £X to play a quality tournament and when we do well do we get PR..........NO, we get a paragraph, if that....the PRO teams get maybe what......1 maybe 2 full pages, almost to the stage of individual performance, Am maybe half a page, Nov...well you know the rest.......we go on about the US.....coverage of Mill Events is coverage of PRO teams, lets cut through the crap, it is, they are PRO, we, are not, tis the way of the World, please....it's Friday night, had a few beers, not opening another can of worms, just telling it how it is.

Help the little people....oh and FREEDOM

See you all soon.

Sid....yup drunk again
 

Robbo

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Hmmmmmm, maybe I got out of bed the wrong side of bed yesterday or something, hence the tone of my initial post in this thread.
I did not mean to piss anybody off (Sid / John) but as Matt (Rancid) mentioned, I do get a lot of people giving me **** about this, again and again and again...........you get the picture I hope ?
Sid, as for you holding a different opinion to mine, that's fine as long as you can back up that opinion with a reasoned argument and relevant facts.
Now if you cannot, then please don't ask me to respect it.
There are two conflicting dynamics that explain the ongoing nature of this argument.
Firstly, is the feeling from a vociferous minority that perhaps their corner is not being represented well enough in the magazine.
Secondly, is the economic and readership imperatives we at the magazine have to adhere to if we all want to keep paying our mortgages (And I unfortunately have two).

And there you have it, the grey area between the two opposing camps is the battleground for the sometimes informed, sometimes outrageously ignorant points of argument that straddle this board.

Now it seems ludicrous that these interests do conflict because if we (PGI) are to uphold our end of the publishing bargain then we have to take into account, the points of view of our readership.
So how do I reconcile this and still remain on the 'right' side of this debate.
The minority who criticise us have different interests, their expectation is not of money in the bank, it's not to satisfy the majority of readers, it's a self-interest that we all have.
It is the nature of people to voice their disapprovals and it is also the nature of people to remain relatively quiet when things are cool.
So, we have a few pissed off people with what they se as a valid point up against not only us at PGI but also the silent majority.
And I think that majority needs to be contextualised because the people who are moaning are probably something like 0.4 % of the tournament players of the UK who in turn are less than 1% of the readership.
Now I ain't stupid enough to think that the only people in the UK who may be pissed off with us are the only people posting on this board, I am sure there are more out there but believe me, they are still a very small minority of the UK players.
Likewise, I also believe that silence (from the rest of the readership) doesn't always translate into approval of what we do.
All that said, we do listen to you guys, that I promise, and we do take it all seriously, that I also promise.
The problem arises (for me at least) is when I have to keep making the same points, to the same people over and over again.
Now if we were failing, in any way, in any of the debates we have had on this subject, believe me I and the others at PGI would recognise our tenuous position.
That has not happened yet !
We really do work hard at PGI to give all our readers the best possible coverage of all aspects of our sport and I suppose we should expect this from time to time.
What is undeniable is that, as paintball has evolved to become more international and more professional, a parallel path has been taken by PGI, we could no more ignore paintball's evolution any more than we could continue concentrating on UK coverage.
We are all part of a sport that has come further down the road than a lot of us could have ever thought, I for one am glad to be part of an international where Sid from Scotland or John (Sad)from wherever, can get their asses into an international magazine if they blow away a couple of the top Yank players when they come up against them in one of the prelim games.
Try and think of another sport or publication where you could see that.
I love this sport of ours, I love this magazine I work for, perhaps that is why I get over-involved sometimes, to put it mildly :)
I'm outa here.
CYA on the field guys, coz let's face it, that's where it's at for all of us :)

Robbo
 

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Perhaps a crazy notion but perhaps some of us are living in the present, but have our minds in the past.
What do I mean by this? Well, back in the days when the Robbosaurus still roamed paintball was a small enough scene to warrant publication of smaller events and teams, for the simple reason that that what is considered small now, was huge back then!
There were only a limited number of teams around, and a limited number of tourneys, so in order to get the mag full, they all (or at least a lot of them) got coverage.
Since then paintball has grown to be a multimillion dollar business, with events that draw thousands of people from all over the world. So it makes sense that these larger events get more coverage (as I'm sure we all agree).
But I think that a number of people that play on the teams nowadays were also around in the the old days, and are therefore used to seeing the 'lesser gods' get attention and publication too. Unfortunately, as a result of our beloved sport growing the way it does, this is becoming economically unviable, for all the reasons that were brought forth by Robbo, TJ, Mr Big, and Rancid.
We all want our sport to grow. This is probably one of the less appreciated side effects........but those are the facts of life.

take care people.

PS like it was said before, if you want to see your name in print, write something and submit it. It makes life a lot easier for all the PGI people, and they do appreciate it. Talk to Al Woods and Micah, their articles have been published. Hell, they even stuck the rantings of some deranged Dutchy in their pages. Just can't remember his name though......
 

wee-man

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sid put down the beer and lift up the gauntlet mate we can all take turns on the camera at wrexham..... on second thoughts just start buying the beers we can do the camera thing in the morning m8..........lets go kick some pro butt:D :D :D
 

Sid

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My eyes hurt

After many many beers I wake up and can't even begin to understand some of the massive words you use Robbo, ;)

As I have said, I just want to play ball mate, you know that's the truth I keep popping up in the most unusual places...

Let's all be mates, get drunk and shoot each other, hold on, is that not a contradiction.......

Hopefully we will see some photos and results from Wrexham, if it makes a new page in P8ntballer I'm more than happy, yes, the sport has evolved, I came back after 6 years out thinking my Thunderbolt you be enough to come back into tournament play...eh..NO duh, still we try hard.

See you all in the beer for a game of strip poker (If Zap girls going?) and laughs.....

Wee-Man....I never buy a round you know that mate