I agree. We need relegation and promotion to bring the sport to life.
But we would also be missing out if certain teams didn't have a chance to realise they may have screwed up and get back in.
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But we would also be missing out if certain teams didn't have a chance to realise they may have screwed up and get back in.
True, but then what of teams who have supported tha league from the start who will miss out to allow tha big boys in?
As for BC, well, it looks like they could miss out despite supporting tha league from the start. And if you just ain't good enough, then you ain't good enough...bottom line is, that's what sport is all about, n'est pas?
That's the toughest call. Maybe for the first year points from other leagues should have a consideration?
My bad. What was I thinking? If they don't make the cut they don't make the cut.
We want a bit of ruthlessness don't we? Make them play the level down and fight for the right to move up the next year. It would be fun as a spectator if they can wipe everyone around in the Div below but I doubt that would happen anyway.
the league can still own the spot, with qualifying team "leasing" the spot for the year. Of course, that opens up the possibility of subletting the spot to another team...
The big question would seem to be how the term "team" is defined. How are they going to define the team allowed to play as "Dynasty" (or TripleTap or whatever)? is it just the name or the roster of players?
Team XYZ qualifies for the top 18. In doing so, they get a new sponsor who wants the to change their name. Can they do that and still keep their spot in the 18?
Or the owner gets caught sleeping with a male player (or is that only New Jersey governors?) and the entire team quits. Can the owner just hire a new roster, or sell the team/spot to another owner (named Gardner) outright?
The big question would seem to be how the term "team" is defined. How are they going to define the team allowed to play as "Dynasty" (or TripleTap or whatever)? is it just the name or the roster of players?
Team XYZ qualifies for the top 18. In doing so, they get a new sponsor who wants the to change their name. Can they do that and still keep their spot in the 18?
Or the owner gets caught sleeping with a male player (or is that only New Jersey governors?) and the entire team quits. Can the owner just hire a new roster, or sell the team/spot to another owner (named Gardner) outright?
My personal opinion is that it should be done like the FA.
My argument on the teams that didn't make it is that they had ample time and opportunity to be a part of it (in fact they still do, registration for Vegas is still open).
The 3 or 4 teams that we would ALL like to see competing in the 18 can enter in the Pro/Am division, and the top 2 will be promoted up. If these teams are so deserving of thier reputations then surely they will make it?
To argue my point using RL as an example. I am a huge fan of the team, but they have been asked, begged and reasoned with by many people now, including you, Robbo, and still they do not wish to enter the Super 7's and are not interested in making the top 18.
Now, when they still have the chance to qualify, they have chosen to play an exhibition game instead, which means nothing!!
Baca - I wasn't implying that the teams would be the owners of the slots, in fact I do not see a scenario where that plays out, and the NPPL keep the relegation/Promotion thing.
Relegation and Promotion from the divisions will set the league on fire. Every game will mean something, and I really look foward to it and I think it is a natural and necessary step.
In the US you guys are used to organising sports a certain way, with ownership and permanent places in the Top leagues as in the NXL.
In Europe sports do not operate like this, the cream of the talent rises to the top in thier own teams, they don't just get picked up by whoever is lucky enough to own a place in the 'TV league', well not all the time anyway...
This whole thing surely has to be professional. Whats professional about not making it into the 18, then buying another teams slot so you get to be in it anyway? That is simply not right, or just (in my opinion)
My argument on the teams that didn't make it is that they had ample time and opportunity to be a part of it (in fact they still do, registration for Vegas is still open).
The 3 or 4 teams that we would ALL like to see competing in the 18 can enter in the Pro/Am division, and the top 2 will be promoted up. If these teams are so deserving of thier reputations then surely they will make it?
To argue my point using RL as an example. I am a huge fan of the team, but they have been asked, begged and reasoned with by many people now, including you, Robbo, and still they do not wish to enter the Super 7's and are not interested in making the top 18.
Now, when they still have the chance to qualify, they have chosen to play an exhibition game instead, which means nothing!!
Baca - I wasn't implying that the teams would be the owners of the slots, in fact I do not see a scenario where that plays out, and the NPPL keep the relegation/Promotion thing.
Relegation and Promotion from the divisions will set the league on fire. Every game will mean something, and I really look foward to it and I think it is a natural and necessary step.
In the US you guys are used to organising sports a certain way, with ownership and permanent places in the Top leagues as in the NXL.
In Europe sports do not operate like this, the cream of the talent rises to the top in thier own teams, they don't just get picked up by whoever is lucky enough to own a place in the 'TV league', well not all the time anyway...
This whole thing surely has to be professional. Whats professional about not making it into the 18, then buying another teams slot so you get to be in it anyway? That is simply not right, or just (in my opinion)
the bottom line is that these teams we all want to see can still get 3 good events in. Do well, and they are in. If they don't play the events what right do they have to a place. They have not competed for it or earned it. Teams like Nexus and Joy will have invested heavily and sacrificed to get in. How is that fair?
If they get in after competing for the spot, and don't want to play the league. The position reverts back to the league, it does not belong to the team. Why should it? They don't want it!
If they get in after competing for the spot, and don't want to play the league. The position reverts back to the league, it does not belong to the team. Why should it? They don't want it!
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I agree with ITN - are you going to ensure that each team is a limited company, so you can ensure who the team owner is and then regulate the spots?
In essence I agree with this because we (Nexus) will have invested a huge amount of our team's resources, about 50,000 dollars, in supporting the NPPL this year and hoping to gain a place in what promises to be the best league of all, and if it's gonna be difficult or even impossible for any Johnny Come Lateleys to make it in, why the hell should I care.
But this somewhat selfish (and perhaps just) attitude doesn't reconcile itself too well with wanting all the top teams to be present in the best league but if there are to be colateral casulaties then I'd rather it be them than me.