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[Intheno]

I have not seen any rulings on this, and nor has anyone else, so we are all making assumptions (please don't say the line from Under Seige 2)
I think without an official ruling the only clever thing to do would be to enter as the team they wish to be next year.

I do not expect this kind of loophole to be left open by the NPPL. They want a fair and uncorrupted league and my guess is that they will put rulings in place that will get this kind of nonsense out in the open.

My opinion, for what it's worth, is that if SC are not good enough to get into the Pro bracket after 3 events, what makes us think they will be good enough to compete there next season?
Triple Tap will have earned thier place (if they get it). The decision to sell would be made by whoever owns the team. If the ownership of the team (or any pro team) is unclear, and many are, then it will all get very messy.
This is where the relegation/Promotion battle comes in for next year. Will Dye (or whoever) be prepared to buy yet another spot next year if thier new 'buy-in' team drops down?

oooh, it's going to be good.

Anyone want to talk about the NXL?

anyone.....

 

[Mark Toye-Nexus]

OMG

It's intrigue of the highest order - all fuelled by the big, bad buck

Within th ecurrent rules Dynasty can do this, enter the fist team as the second and sell this place on - and why not? Nothing to stop them ca$hing in!!

Who wouldnt

Anyway, NXL................zzzzzzzz

 

[shamu]

Dammit, the first NPPL event I miss in more than two years, and it has to be this one. Should be some madcrazyfunky stuff going on. And paintball too. Can't wait to see how it all turns out.

At least I get to go to Malaga and San Diego

 

[noop]

This is all so funny.

 

[Intheno]

I think Dynasty 2 may be a little premature in thier assuption that they will be able to get a spot and then sell it.

We will see, but I will go on record as saying that I don't think it will be allowed to happen. Those days are gone. The NPPL isn't a tinpot operation, rife with corruption and nepotism.
It has a rules commitee and they will vote on whether to allow this. I don't see the places in the league being bought and sold. If a team does not want their spot it will more likely go back to the league.
Teams can squeal all they want. But until a ruling is applied to this and written down for all to see, no-one knows what will be allowed. Dynasty are speculating, which is fine, but I seriously doubt they will be able to start a bidding war on a place in the 18 Pro teams. It is not even clear who owns all 18 spots yet, is it?

Maybe the NPPL own them, and the teams are competing just to hold it for a year? Does anyone have more information on this?

a quick eg.
English Premier League Football (thats proper football by the way)
which it would seem is what the promotion/relegation league system is based on (actually any Football league in europe is the same for that matter).
Manchester United can't buy Arsenals place in it! It is owned by the FA (football association). When a team is relegated they lose thier spot, and another team takes it for that season. But it is still owned by the FA, not the team.

Anyone have an opinion on this?
Should Dynasty be able to win a place, then claim to own it and sell it?
Imagine Millwall getting promoted from the 1st Division and West Brom getting relegated from The premiership.
Do you think West Brom should be able to pay Millwall for thier premiership spot so they can stay there and play?
Its ridiculous isn't it?
Where does it end?
What does it do to the NPPL's ethos that they are forming a truly Pro uncorrupted league with the best teams in the world?

 

[Robbo]

Originally posted by Intheno

Should Dynasty be able to win a place, then claim to own it and sell it?
Imagine Millwall getting promoted from the 1st Division and West Brom getting relegated from The premiership.
Do you think West Brom should be able to pay Millwall for thier premiership spot so they can stay there and play?
Its ridiculous isn't it?
Where does it end?
What does it do to the NPPL's ethos that they are forming a truly Pro uncorrupted league with the best teams in the world?

Intheno, this is the first year of the pro NPPL in any serious and coherent form, as such, I think you should open up the franchises for purchase in this first year and allow any of the top pro teams who have perhaps not made it in because of various reasons.

Once the pre-season shuffling has been done and is settled, I think you should lock it down.
This would allow all top pros to maybe have a spot (if some of the lesser teams accepted their offers) and the league would then truly reflect the best there is.
The NXL's decsisoin to allow their teams to partake in the NPPL came maybe too lae for some of the tpo pros, it would be a crying shame if the NPPL was robbed of some of these teams just because of the NXL ruling body's intransigence.

Create a side door, allow teams who have qualified by the front door the optoin of taking the money and running and then everybody benefits.

 

[Baca Loco]

Originally posted by Intheno
1--Dynasty are speculating, which is fine, but I seriously doubt they will be able to start a bidding war on a place in the 18 Pro teams. It is not even clear who owns all 18 spots yet, is it?

2--Maybe the NPPL own them, and the teams are competing just to hold it for a year? Does anyone have more information on this?

3--It is owned by the FA (football association).

4--Its ridiculous isn't it?

5--Where does it end?

6--What does it do to the NPPL's ethos that they are forming a truly Pro uncorrupted league with the best teams in the world?

1--when you say "yet" you are implying the teams vying for the slots will be the "owners." If so, then why aren't they entitled to do as they please with their slot? (And please don't tell me you didn't mean it 'cus the whole rest of your post is an effort to knock down the whole notion of team ownership so you had to set up the concept to begin with.)
2--how could anyone know more about than you?
3--I guess your analogy depends on just what the FA is as an organization. If the FA is a governing body that all participants have a stake in and a shared agreement on how the league should be operated then, No, it's nothing like the NPPL or what the NPPL plans to be.
4--not in the least. If Dynasty 2 win a place why shouldn't they be allowed to do what they want with it? And if some new magical rule is written to disallow why should that new magical rule have any more or less validity to anyone except the "league" protecting its own? Why not ask the rest of the teams if the situation occurs?
5--dogs living with cats! It's a sham I tell ya, a mockery, it's a shamockery
6--so that's the NPPL's ethos. Perhaps they ought to write that down somewhere. It's not quite the Olympic ideal but I'm not too proud to confess it still makes me all misty

 

[TJ Lambini]

Could be a bit of self protectionism for tha league though, gives some of tha big teams who may miss out the chance to buy in - their presence legitimizes tha league as best of best, plus minimizes a chance of competitive league strengthening...

 

[Buddha 3]

Would be kinda strange anyway to have teams "own" slots in a league that has promotion/relegation. How can you own a slot if you get kicked out? Makes no sense.

As I see it, league should indeed be the owner of the slots. Otherwise you would have to go for a franchise system, such as the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB and dare I say it, NXL...

 

[manike]

I have to say I would like to see it run like the FA.

I really hate the idea that people could just buy in and out. That ability is not always going to give a good end result (i.e. Legacy in the NXL).

BUT! (and it's a big one) I think there should be some allowance for the first year or so to get some of the teams that are going to make it more exciting to be involved and thus I agree with this...

Originally posted by TJ Lambini
Could be a bit of self protectionism for tha league though, gives some of tha big teams who may miss out the chance to buy in - their presence legitimizes tha league as best of best, plus minimizes a chance of competitive league strengthening...

Maybe slots could be traded for the first year, but the FA still owns them and after that NO trading?

Tough call. But I'd hate to see potentially huge teams (in terms of play and the sponsorship they can bring in from inside and outside the industry) missing out...

I'd want to see RL and BC in there if possible, just because they are marketable and will help the future of the league and sport...

my $0.02