New CE bottle stamp and what it means to the players

[Rupert]

I think Robwills2 has a point. At least if you buy the CE bottles now, there is still a chance to sell the old HSE bottles just in case they do become illegal in the next few months.

Remember what happened when HSE came in, what is a DOT bottle worth now? FA that's what.

No-one knows what is going to happen, the UKPSF don't have a clue. Ledz owns a shop so he most likely has piles of HSE bottles that he needs to get rid of, same as all the shops in the UK and Europe.

I am sure if you phone any shop they'll say that HSE will be fine for years.

 

[Bully]

Missing the point

UK Only

HSE bottles are legal and will always be legal as long as they are in the life of the bottle and they are in test.

HSE never came in in the UK it has always been there the filling of DOT bottles in the UK for commercial gain has always been against the law.

If you are looking to buy a new bottle then yes buy a pan europe bottle then if the Millenium outlaw all other bottles then you are OK, but in the UK HSE bottles will always be approved.

When will someone produce the necessary piece of paper that says only pan european bottles will be allowed in European events. It is up to the Millenium committee to produce the legislation not the UKPSF.

Incidentally we do have a clue - we know the situation in the UK maybe other European Federation might like to put their point of view where events are held in their countries and then UK paintballers travelling abroad will know the situation.

Steve

 

[Dark Warrior]

Originally posted by Rupert
I think Robwills2 has a point. At least if you buy the CE bottles now, there is still a chance to sell the old HSE bottles just in case they do become illegal in the next few months.

Remember what happened when HSE came in, what is a DOT bottle worth now? FA that's what.

No-one knows what is going to happen, the UKPSF don't have a clue. Ledz owns a shop so he most likely has piles of HSE bottles that he needs to get rid of, same as all the shops in the UK and Europe.

I am sure if you phone any shop they'll say that HSE will be fine for years.

If the British government made the HSE bottle illegal they would have to pay compensation to all the owners and stores with bottles still in test, which is why HSE bottles will be able to used in the UK until end of life. In europe the rules are different but at present they allow any bottle as long it is in test and it is being used by a national of the country using that standard ie a Brit using HSE and a "Yank" using DOT. Note There is less chance of them banning HSE & DOT that the British Government, who have already banned filling of DOT bottles.
I love the fact that you insult (however subtle) two of the main people who promote UK paintball at home and abroad and do know what they are talking about. Without the UKPSF we would not be playing paintball at all, and Planet are a well reknowned company world wide. Both Steve and Ledz have businesses to run, but give them the respect due they both know more about paintball than you ever will, plus they have a lot more to lose if they don't know the facts.

 

[Bully]

Thank You

Thank you for your vote of confidence

Incidentally if the UK banned HSE bottles (it won't happen) paintball is an insignificant small user of HSE/BS air cylinders.

Imagine the scenario - fire brigade called to a house fire but can't enter the buildling because their air tanks are illegal, imagine going to a fizzy drinks machine putting the money in and a "flat" drink is dispensed the list would be endless.

The UK don't ban things overnight generally we phase things in - except guns that are banned overnight and taxes go up but all that is another issue.

Cheers

Steve

We have just concentrated on Uk players going abroad. What about the bigger picture - what about all the European teams who play the Millennium will they all have to ditch their DOT - HSE - BS cylinders in favour of the pan european cylinders at the next millenium????? They have all been playing for years with cylinders approved by other countries. 100 (mininimum teams) X 7 = 700 players = lots of money to be made by a supplier and tournament revolt big style - maybe a statement by the Millennium committee is in order.

 

[Dark Warrior]

Not forgetting all those divers out there.

 

[RON]

draxxus europe all so stock them

 

[Collier]

Not even had the date checked on my bottlle at a millenium let alone what type it was!

But when you're dealing with people who dump 100 bar straight into a cold tank and also don't check that bottles are on the lines before opening the valves its hardly supprising!

Paul

 

[Dark Warrior]

Remember that thier laws may not be as strict as ours or carry the same penalties. In any case you must make sure that you are at least in complience, because the chances are that they will prosecute a foriegner more severely than a local

 

[Collier]

Originally posted by Dark Warrior
Remember that thier laws may not be as strict as ours or carry the same penalties. In any case you must make sure that you are at least in complience, because the chances are that they will prosecute a foriegner more severely than a local

The 2 incidents I mentioned were at Campaign cup and max masters.

But I do agree that players bottles should be in compliance. safety innit

Paul

 

[Red_Merkin]

this is one area of the rules that is super important, as it deals with safety, and not just 'fairness'

The real problem is for the promoters/site owners, as their insurance is void if players are using bottles that are illegal to fill based on their test certification.

void insurance could mean a site owner or promoter could be held liable for any damage one of these bottles cause if it ruptures.
Especially if some french tw@t dumps a 4500 reserve into your bottle in 3 seconds!