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Agreed. At the captains meeting, Pedro may as well have said "**** you" and given us the finger. His attitude was disgusting. Well done to Laurent and Steve for quickly and efficiently defusing the situation and given us, their customers, the respect we deserve.
 

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Roll on Paris!!!

Shall we just look ahead now..

Nothing can change the past, but the past can change the future so hopefully the next 2 legs will be spot on :D .

Well Done to everyone who played, especially the uk teams.

2nd Shock CPL
5th Nexus CPL (this is where I think you ended up going through the scores)
2nd Kellys DIV 1
3rd Nicky T/Blackout DIV 1 (I know Blackout aint a UK team but Nicky is a uk player)
4th Nortorious Kids M5 (I think this may have put them top of the rankings now)
 

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markfenton said:
Shall we just look ahead now..

Nothing can change the past, but the past can change the future so hopefully the next 2 legs will be spot on :D .
Mark, you are missing the whole point of these boards in saying that...these boards give everybody an opportunity to voice their opinion regarding an event of this nature.
It's not down to you (or anybody else for that matter) to call any sort of halt to what's being written here.
The average player doesn't get an opportunity to moan or make observations to the 'powers that be' and these forums, and in particular P8ntballer.com, give the average person an extremely powerful and effective voice that WILL be listened to.
Everybody knows the board will read these posts...and they do, trust me.

And again, we all know we have to look forward but we also have to address the shortcomings of the past and to do that effectively we have to have a comprehensive input as to what went down and what pis$ed people off.
This will run its course in its own time and it's the people who were disaffected who determine the extension of this thread and not some idealistic call to 'look to the future'.

Let's find out all that went wrong, why people were pissed off and then we can begin to put things right but I think the biggest problem is being addressed anyway.

Mark, people have every right to vent as much as they want, after all they paid good money for a bad product !
 

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Hi Pete

Totally agree with you, everyone should be able to voice their opinions.

I was just saying, lets hope Paris and London will be what everyone wants and what short comings there were in Madrid are put right for the next 2 events.

Millennium did this time understand there were problems and that's why Steve and Laurent did what they did, so it shows they are trying now and taken what the players say into account.

Cheers

Mark
p.s hope to see you at the weekend..
 

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markfenton said:
Hi Pete

Totally agree with you, everyone should be able to voice their opinions.

I was just saying, lets hope Paris and London will be what everyone wants and what short comings there were in Madrid are put right for the next 2 events.

Millennium did this time understand there were problems and that's why Steve and Laurent did what they did, so it shows they are trying now and taken what the players say into account.

Cheers

Mark
p.s hope to see you at the weekend..
Agreed, I think what Steve and Laurent did took bollocks and also required a sense of responsibilty that was so conspicuous by its absence in Pedro.
From what I hear, if Steve hadn't have taken the concillatory and professional line that he did when addressing the teams and players, there would have been a frikkin riot.

I'll see ya on Saturday Mark!
 

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I also heard that the MS had asked the reffing teams to only bring 4 refs.... which meant that instead of having plenty of experienced refs and the ability to rotate them during the long hot days.... the refs were overworked in conditions that resembled a pressurecooker.... downright stupid.

(I wonder if those teams get the full 200 points for reffing, when they only had to bring 4 refs... and if reffing teams for Paris and Campaign will insist on only bringing 4 refs, or get more financial compensation for the extra 4 refs THEY have to bring??)

First off there were 3 teams booked to have a full compliment of refs (Pac Ultimate, Phoenix and Rhein Affair) Pedro then cancelled the teams about 3 weeks ago saying to each they weren't needed even after most had booked leave / flights etc.

THEN, a week last Friday they get a call to say they are needed afterall and it's up to them to arrange everything they had already cancelled at a weeks notice. The teams had players that has already arranged to work again etc and considering the notice the screw up wasn't theres.
 

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I don't really understand why players have an issue with the JT and Chronic fields not being in play.... why on earth put them up when you can run the event on 2,5 field like they did? - fewer fields to walk, more games on the same field and longer breaks between games - to me that is all good.
Do you know anything about the rumour that there were some 6 minute games thrown in to make up some time on the schedule to ease the requirement to have another field?
 

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Beaker said:
First off there were 3 teams booked to have a full compliment of refs (Pac Ultimate, Phoenix and Rhein Affair) Pedro then cancelled the teams about 3 weeks ago saying to each they weren't needed even after most had booked leave / flights etc.

THEN, a week last Friday they get a call to say they are needed afterall and it's up to them to arrange everything they had already cancelled at a weeks notice. The teams had players that has already arranged to work again etc and considering the notice the screw up wasn't theres.

If this is true regarding Pedro - then not only should he be sacked - he should also be made to refund any of the monies those teams laid out in booking flights etc......