M25 Marshal (2Bornot2B that is the ?)

[Ralph]

Regarding the Tigers game with Shock Am, the refs made some poor calls during that game and at the end the result was given in favour of the Tigers (who said whining gets you nowhere).
After the game i expressed my annoyance to both yourself and Sparklie, and you investigated the incident. You informed me that Boz did not want a re-match and i said that i would not have expected him to. Two of the Tigers did come to our staging room later in the day and said that the game had been confusing and that they would of replayed but Boz did not want to, once again i told them that i did not blame him. For me the matter was closed. But you have come on here ensinuating that we are sore losers. Get your facts right and dont try and stir,

Now i'm getting a bit lost here either the marshals gave bad calls or something happened that caused the confusion,it can't be both.
Also i said that you were peeved i never said you were bad losers and as for stirring it:
those nice boys from the tigers may have wanted to replay the game but that nasty boz wouldn't let them.

What Sam has come on here and said are his own opinions, which appear to be of the Judges and not what Sparklie is doing for paintball.
Sam's entitled to his view about the marshals getting the best and my view is that so are the players. They haven't had it so good as regard regular tournament play for the last 3-5 years.

Toulouse last year we judged for three days, judged over 130 games and gave it our all.
That's the difference between you and the others at the M25.
A SH*T LOAD OF EXPERIENCE

we made the effort at Dunstable, mainly because Patrina wanted to stop the bad press about the judging and we did not want to let her down.
Did i not give you rave reviews

No one from my team said that they would not play another M25 leg, it was myself that was going to pull the team out on Sunday

When i left you,you were talking to liz about the rolling deposit having previously said that you were leaving on the day.
Liz commented to me later that it seemed you had not gone home from which i understood that you had decided that you would be not be playing further legs by reclaiming your deposit.

Sorry we all make mistakes

ps If you are playing can we tell everyone
and if your not are you up for marshaling again

 

[Liz]

Sam, please don't let one incident spoil the whole series for you and us. We like having your team there, and I would miss you all if you did pull out. We all get calls we don't agree with at some time or another - I've been on the receiving end of some really dreadful ones in the past - but we just have to get on with it. I also wouldn't want to see your good Millennium results suffer 'cause you aren't getting the quality practice in the run up, which is part of what this whole series is about.

 

[go-one]

NOT having read the 'other' thread yet and going ONLY on what has been said in THIS thread, the Shock / Tigers incident sounds familiar so ASSUMING i am describing the right incident this is how it went down...........

Laying down facing 3 players at the 'center' end of the WDP field the game seamed to be going well for that team as they were moving well up the field (NOT whatching the whole game u see !). Seamingly in a position to 'finnish off' a player from my end runs from apx the 50 to mug the back right corner. On route he runs past, unaware of the presence of a player, a laydown 5 m short of the back corner and promptly gets hit on the back left sholder by either that player or his own teams cover fire ! He then continues the 3-4 M and mugs the back right player disapearing from MY sight behind the stand up. I run from my position around the 50 to the corner of the field where this player is STILL shooting, as the marshal in that corner, unaware he is hit on the BACK is pulling the back corner guy he's muged.

OK with that so far ?

I pull the MUGGER, and REPLACE the back corner guy

STILL with me ?

At this point I head back for my area of the field happy I have 'Corrected' the wrong pull and informing the marshal in that corner of the hit BEFORE the mug.

It then transpires from this marshal that the MUGGER had eliminated TWO further players, one from the liedown and one from the back center, who is now insisting HE should also be replaced (Which he should be !).

By now as you can imagine there are players all over, live, dead and dead to be reinserted.

Read the rules, playing on and influencing the game 2-4-1 !!!!!!!
Even though once the situation had been clarified by the field ultimate a 1-4-1 was sufficiant to remove the LAST player therfore awarding an AUTOMATIC flag hang to the other team.

Lets look at this whole thread then.........................

A player plays on, shoots 3 players and its the marshals fault !!!!!

On a more general note, players, when calling for checks, BE AWARE half the time theres already a marshal THERE its just YOU cant see them !!! The number of times I had to tell players to stop calling for checks cos THEY couldt see the marshal was beyond me. I had players screaming for me to drag players out when that HEAD SHOT had bounced of his beanie, playes once hit just sitting there, GET OFF THE F**K**G field, you complain we're not watching the game then expect us to stop what were doing to come and get your arm band !!! I'LL GET IT AT THE END !!!!!
If I'm not moving IT COS I DON'T NEED TO i can see you missed the baracade from where I am let alone get a shot close to the player !!!!

The bottom line is if YOU the PLAYERS got of the field when your hit or we indicate TO YOU your hit, DIDN'T play on, wipe, or actualy hit the player you THINK you hit sudenly you'd find the marshaling was't so bad !!!!!

Just so you know where I'm coming from, Playing 13 years, marshaling at least 10 of that, at tourny level, and trust me none of this is NEW !!!!

 

[Rich]

Ralph, yes Shock Am will be playing again , we may marshall so that How can impress me with his judging and chronoing skills that he has apparently learnt, i also want to see him lump Sam .

What about some of the other Division A teams judging ? (Outkast excluded)

Thankyou Mark for your prompt and honest reply.

With reference to the Tigers/Shock Am game

Now i'm getting a bit lost here either the marshals gave bad calls or something happened that caused the confusion,it can't be both.

The judges made bad calls at both ends, witnessed by both teams. Even by that man who used to play for the Preds who won all them trophies. Sorry about the sarcasm .

Rich

 

[my 2 cents worth]

Rich

Remember the one game you played in the Draxxus field, you were behind the left back castle, then suddenly, whack, you get hit on your Loader... you smoothie you, you casually check if the marshall was looking in your direction (which lucky for you he wasn't) and calmly remove the hit with your glove.... man I wish I was that good!!!

 

[go-one]

Its OK, sarcasm makes the world go round !!!

Having just read the discription of the 'Incident' at the start of 'the other' thread, I don't think its the one above as they describe a '50 TAPELINE' mugging, not a back corner, but still serves to illustrate !!
When you have one player playing on, 2 or 3 dead but alive players, and others moving around and only one or two marshals in that area it quickly becomes confusing and I don't mean just for the players. When the games move at the pace they do today even 1 on 1 marshaling will not solve the incident i described above or the one in the other thread, such is the nature of the game ! When you play on the edge you've got to expect to fall of once in awhile !

 

[Rich]

Oops pressed send twice

 

[Rich]

Stu, you must be perfect 13 years and all that experience. But only one pair of eyes.
The mugger took the rear right corner and was found to have been eliminated. So the rear rigt corner was put back in, no problem with that. The fact that the lay down can and the rear right corner were eliminated by myself and another player who was with me in the snake is where the problem lies, as these were eliminated during all the confusion in the corner. This was confirmed by Paul and Warren from the Tigers as fact. This was the error and is now in the past, so dont give me crap about how long, where and what you have been doing as that does f**k all for me.



Rich

 

[Rich]

Rich

My 2 cents worth
[ Quote]Remember the one game you played in the Draxxus field, you were behind the left back castle, then suddenly, whack, you get hit on your Loader... you smoothie you, you casually check if the marshall was looking in your direction (which lucky for you he wasn't) and calmly remove the hit with your glove.... man I wish I was that good!!!

You registered just to make accusations and slate me ! If your part of this thread then please would you use your real i.d and not make me out to be a liar and a cheat, thankyou.

Rich

 

[sjt19]

Rich

Originally posted by my 2 cents worth
Remember the one game you played in the Draxxus field, you were behind the left back castle, then suddenly, whack, you get hit on your Loader... you smoothie you, you casually check if the marshall was looking in your direction (which lucky for you he wasn't) and calmly remove the hit with your glove.... man I wish I was that good!!!

Any particular reason why you have chosen to create a new sign in name to post something that is hugely damaging to a players reputation? Not man enough for your opinions to be seen to come from yourself? personal;ly i find it very hard to trust someone who finds it neccessary to hide behind an alias, and not take responsibility for what they say.....