M25 Hmmm
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i have no real intention to create another argument, or similarly provoke an old one, but to put this string of threads to bed (hopefully)
Sparklie was with us when the said paintball came through the netting and hit Darren on the back of the head. we imediately said you need to sort that out! Sparklie replied "i have more netting for the next round i will get it sorted" so far so good.....agreed? the reason i have mentioned it on here and also on her forum is so that she can be reminded of this problem! and also that others are aware of the problem to remind her as well! its called Proactive commenting!!
Then another paintball came hurtling under the netting and across the road/track and hit the blue van parked there and bounced all the way back to where we were standing. i then picked up said paintball and said to sparklie try and break that! she obliged and then asked who was supplying these paintballs. i then said (wanting to avoid any arggey barggey) it came from that field from that end and you know who are playing, work it out. the team in question are sponsorred by Diablo, so we therefore made the conclusion that it was their brand of paint......following? we stayed and watched for another 3 hours and watched the same team send paintball through the netting, over the netting and under the netting breaking trees in half and killing birds (sorry got carried away there). Sparklie as the organiser had every opportunity to visit the said team and enquire as to why they are using rec grade paint! she chose not to, so i am not going to get involved, cos the team would have simply told me to F...Off! again i have raised this point on Sparklies forum for her attention.
i am sorry if you think that i am a menacing, moaning, anoying person, but my clear intentions are to help the women, and thus help us all run a great and SAFE!!!!!!!!! event.
imagine the feelings of everyone concerned if the HSE had turned up and shut the event down on safety grounds! you would have a different opinion then i feel!
Sparklie was with us when the said paintball came through the netting and hit Darren on the back of the head. we imediately said you need to sort that out! Sparklie replied "i have more netting for the next round i will get it sorted" so far so good.....agreed? the reason i have mentioned it on here and also on her forum is so that she can be reminded of this problem! and also that others are aware of the problem to remind her as well! its called Proactive commenting!!
Then another paintball came hurtling under the netting and across the road/track and hit the blue van parked there and bounced all the way back to where we were standing. i then picked up said paintball and said to sparklie try and break that! she obliged and then asked who was supplying these paintballs. i then said (wanting to avoid any arggey barggey) it came from that field from that end and you know who are playing, work it out. the team in question are sponsorred by Diablo, so we therefore made the conclusion that it was their brand of paint......following? we stayed and watched for another 3 hours and watched the same team send paintball through the netting, over the netting and under the netting breaking trees in half and killing birds (sorry got carried away there). Sparklie as the organiser had every opportunity to visit the said team and enquire as to why they are using rec grade paint! she chose not to, so i am not going to get involved, cos the team would have simply told me to F...Off! again i have raised this point on Sparklies forum for her attention.
i am sorry if you think that i am a menacing, moaning, anoying person, but my clear intentions are to help the women, and thus help us all run a great and SAFE!!!!!!!!! event.
imagine the feelings of everyone concerned if the HSE had turned up and shut the event down on safety grounds! you would have a different opinion then i feel!
Dear all I am finally back on line, after mucking out the pigpen!!!!!
Most of you are now aware of our scaffolding problems. After researching and obtaining several quotes I chose a company established since 1898 that were a fully insured, qualified BSI 6651 standard company. I thought this a sensible dission as the saftey of the event was always the top proity. Being one of only a hand full of events of it’s kind in England there are not many experienced paintball friendly scaffold companies. At the site visit I gave a though brief to the manager and we spend a good 30 minuets looking through paintball magazine’s at netting we could ony come up with 3 events worth looking at.
I did not ask for the style of scaffolding we got! My scaffolders decided the tower and steel cables I had asked for would be UN safe so I got Harris fencing and poles. At 11.30 Friday the whole lot fell flat with one good strong gust of wind. We were UN able to continue till gone 3pm this and being let down at the last minuet all hammped the smooth running of the event.
Saturdays open day to the public had to be cancelled due to this, which was a huge shame, and Unreal who should have been training on the fields spent the whole day building them. At this point I would also like to thank Trevor (the ultimate on the smarts field) and his friends who worked like Trojans, Jeeves, Geoff of Diablo Direct and Donnie from Smart Parts for all their self less help. By this time we had lost a whole day.
The scaffolding company had great difficulty understand the importance of the netting and understanding the game and lots of mumbles of bloody paintball abounded. By Sunday afternoon this had all changed the owner came down to see what all the fuss had been about his first time “on site” for 4 years. He was really excited by what he saw and now understands the technical difficulties we had and is keen to rectify then if I chose to use them again.
A lot of the issues that have been mention were things that due to the time constraints now upon us did not get implemented.
The caters were booked though the leisure centre I had been promised good varied food at reasonable prices. If I can use out side caters Jim has offered his and Lisa’s services I have already sampled most of our other venues fairs and prices I do not want to see this happen again. Any one who has played my events on site will know our prices are very reasonable and the food is always good.
Please bear in mind when I was organising the event I was only catering for the 20 teams that had been showing their support. It is extremely difficult to organise a huge marquee with 3 days notice, the bulk of the deposits came in with less than a week to go. I did manage an extra 10-foot and more tables. Jewsons one of our main sponsors had also provided me with tarpaulins as a contingency plan in the event of rain.
Netting for a start it was 5 meters High the join was necessary because of the nature of construction personally I was UN happy about this too. All complaints were acted on. I personally spent some time watching problem areas and never once saw a ball go though the netting, some did bounce under many bounced over.
The main problem was the quality of paint some teams were shooting. I have already spoken to the suppliers involved. I think maybe teams should think about what they are shooting! This is why my site is site paint only because that way I can insure only the highest quality safe paint is shot. There was some very old paint being shot I really can’t see any player boxing new paint in old boxes and some of those have been out of use for over 6months now! I cannot be held responsible for the players paint, as paintballers surely it is our best Intrest to shoot good quality paint. This was also an issue at world cup hence my horrific bruises. It has been suggested only tourney grade paint, as player I take responsibility for my paint.
There have been lots of comments about the marshals all of whom did their best. No one was sat on the field on a chair as was seen at millenniums last year bear in mind I have reffed with the American pro refs too. There were a minum of 8 marshals in total per field. 30 in total.
Yes some of them were inexperienced but bearing in mind the teams initially supporting the event this should not have been such a big problem. I had asked all the big known teams to get involved and help many have now since offered. This should see improvements. I have personally paid to have all those marshals UKPSF trained what they lack in experience I feel they made up in effort for some of them this was a baptism of fire.
I was also aware of the swearing we all get heated but this is unnecessary I did address the captains at the meeting and asked them all to remind their teams that this was a very public event and to bear this in mind. Swearing and bad behaviour will not be tolerated and is not good for the future of our sport.
Bricket wood had promised to have an overhead projector and screen at our disposal this sadly did not happen hence on scoreboard. L
Next time we will all try and use our radios and the pa system I took advise on were to place it and next time we will get this right.
I am not attacking any of the comments made of the people who made them.
I am really pleased with the first event and considering all our technical difficulties and the late entry of so may teams I think we did really well.
Virtually every comment made was an issue I was already aware of I genuinely hope the offers of support help and more experienced marshals will materialise. This will help the event progress to high standards far faster.
I do believe the series could help to improve British paintball I am committed to improving what was a very good 1st event compared to my 1st ever tourney this was much bigger and had loads more technical issues and I only sold 5 boxes of paint not 60 or so. Any one playing at on site events will have seen the rapid improvements we have made.
I take the comparisons to mini millenniums I have heard as a really positive compliment this was a first event in a regional tournament. The millennium series has been in existence for some years now and is recognised as one of the best in the world so I take that as high prise indeed.
I would like to thank every one who made this possible you the players who took a gamble into an unknown quantity hopefully most of you were pleasantly suppressed.
To all the marshals, runners and Liz, Trevor, Michael, Chris, Paul Geoff from Diablo Donnie from Smarts, Bully who was always at the end of a phone and to neil jasmine and unreal for helping turn a mountain of difficulties into a mere mole hill with out them this would not have happened.
And lastly my sponsors Diablo, Smart Parts, Zap, Jewsons, WDP, Sub Seven, Extreme Rage (I will pre order at the pie shop next year
) Recca barrels, Server, Warren Wood paintball, Walk-on Zone, UK Marshalls and Tourney Park.
I hoped you enjoyed it as much as I did and Hope to see you all on the 6th of April
Most of you are now aware of our scaffolding problems. After researching and obtaining several quotes I chose a company established since 1898 that were a fully insured, qualified BSI 6651 standard company. I thought this a sensible dission as the saftey of the event was always the top proity. Being one of only a hand full of events of it’s kind in England there are not many experienced paintball friendly scaffold companies. At the site visit I gave a though brief to the manager and we spend a good 30 minuets looking through paintball magazine’s at netting we could ony come up with 3 events worth looking at.
I did not ask for the style of scaffolding we got! My scaffolders decided the tower and steel cables I had asked for would be UN safe so I got Harris fencing and poles. At 11.30 Friday the whole lot fell flat with one good strong gust of wind. We were UN able to continue till gone 3pm this and being let down at the last minuet all hammped the smooth running of the event.
Saturdays open day to the public had to be cancelled due to this, which was a huge shame, and Unreal who should have been training on the fields spent the whole day building them. At this point I would also like to thank Trevor (the ultimate on the smarts field) and his friends who worked like Trojans, Jeeves, Geoff of Diablo Direct and Donnie from Smart Parts for all their self less help. By this time we had lost a whole day.
The scaffolding company had great difficulty understand the importance of the netting and understanding the game and lots of mumbles of bloody paintball abounded. By Sunday afternoon this had all changed the owner came down to see what all the fuss had been about his first time “on site” for 4 years. He was really excited by what he saw and now understands the technical difficulties we had and is keen to rectify then if I chose to use them again.
A lot of the issues that have been mention were things that due to the time constraints now upon us did not get implemented.
The caters were booked though the leisure centre I had been promised good varied food at reasonable prices. If I can use out side caters Jim has offered his and Lisa’s services I have already sampled most of our other venues fairs and prices I do not want to see this happen again. Any one who has played my events on site will know our prices are very reasonable and the food is always good.
Please bear in mind when I was organising the event I was only catering for the 20 teams that had been showing their support. It is extremely difficult to organise a huge marquee with 3 days notice, the bulk of the deposits came in with less than a week to go. I did manage an extra 10-foot and more tables. Jewsons one of our main sponsors had also provided me with tarpaulins as a contingency plan in the event of rain.
Netting for a start it was 5 meters High the join was necessary because of the nature of construction personally I was UN happy about this too. All complaints were acted on. I personally spent some time watching problem areas and never once saw a ball go though the netting, some did bounce under many bounced over.
The main problem was the quality of paint some teams were shooting. I have already spoken to the suppliers involved. I think maybe teams should think about what they are shooting! This is why my site is site paint only because that way I can insure only the highest quality safe paint is shot. There was some very old paint being shot I really can’t see any player boxing new paint in old boxes and some of those have been out of use for over 6months now! I cannot be held responsible for the players paint, as paintballers surely it is our best Intrest to shoot good quality paint. This was also an issue at world cup hence my horrific bruises. It has been suggested only tourney grade paint, as player I take responsibility for my paint.
There have been lots of comments about the marshals all of whom did their best. No one was sat on the field on a chair as was seen at millenniums last year bear in mind I have reffed with the American pro refs too. There were a minum of 8 marshals in total per field. 30 in total.
Yes some of them were inexperienced but bearing in mind the teams initially supporting the event this should not have been such a big problem. I had asked all the big known teams to get involved and help many have now since offered. This should see improvements. I have personally paid to have all those marshals UKPSF trained what they lack in experience I feel they made up in effort for some of them this was a baptism of fire.
I was also aware of the swearing we all get heated but this is unnecessary I did address the captains at the meeting and asked them all to remind their teams that this was a very public event and to bear this in mind. Swearing and bad behaviour will not be tolerated and is not good for the future of our sport.
Bricket wood had promised to have an overhead projector and screen at our disposal this sadly did not happen hence on scoreboard. L
Next time we will all try and use our radios and the pa system I took advise on were to place it and next time we will get this right.
I am not attacking any of the comments made of the people who made them.
I am really pleased with the first event and considering all our technical difficulties and the late entry of so may teams I think we did really well.
Virtually every comment made was an issue I was already aware of I genuinely hope the offers of support help and more experienced marshals will materialise. This will help the event progress to high standards far faster.
I do believe the series could help to improve British paintball I am committed to improving what was a very good 1st event compared to my 1st ever tourney this was much bigger and had loads more technical issues and I only sold 5 boxes of paint not 60 or so. Any one playing at on site events will have seen the rapid improvements we have made.
I take the comparisons to mini millenniums I have heard as a really positive compliment this was a first event in a regional tournament. The millennium series has been in existence for some years now and is recognised as one of the best in the world so I take that as high prise indeed.
I would like to thank every one who made this possible you the players who took a gamble into an unknown quantity hopefully most of you were pleasantly suppressed.
To all the marshals, runners and Liz, Trevor, Michael, Chris, Paul Geoff from Diablo Donnie from Smarts, Bully who was always at the end of a phone and to neil jasmine and unreal for helping turn a mountain of difficulties into a mere mole hill with out them this would not have happened.
And lastly my sponsors Diablo, Smart Parts, Zap, Jewsons, WDP, Sub Seven, Extreme Rage (I will pre order at the pie shop next year
) Recca barrels, Server, Warren Wood paintball, Walk-on Zone, UK Marshalls and Tourney Park. I hoped you enjoyed it as much as I did and Hope to see you all on the 6th of April
well done Sparklie!!!
see you at the next one
if the site is on the northern side of the M25 then i am sure STORM UK could assist with the setting up! let us know
again well bloody done!
see you at the next one
if the site is on the northern side of the M25 then i am sure STORM UK could assist with the setting up! let us know
again well bloody done!
Although I missed out (big time by the sounds of it) on the first leg of the M25 league, all the reports I've heard from various peoples have made we wish I was there.
Having been in a similar position to Unreal (building a site the day before a tourney there) twice now, I'd like to say nuff respect, and well done lads (and any lasses that are involved )
Having been in a similar position to Unreal (building a site the day before a tourney there) twice now, I'd like to say nuff respect, and well done lads (and any lasses that are involved
)
Would like to say this was my first ever torney, and i loved it, have only been playing paintball since october and im loving every second of it, should be going portugal as well so hope to see alot of you there (im the guy with the very curly afro!!!)
Anyway to the M25 leg, i thought it was sweet, with it being my first event i have to admit i dont have alot of exp in tourneys but i thought it was good.
I would also like to big up Mr Pink for his gun checks i heard him calling the next two teams in every time a game started and every team was ready to play their game half way through the game being played before them.
Which i think kept that field nearer to time than the other two.
Also i would like to congratulate all teams at the event especially the teams we came up against (portsmouth uni div 3)
Would also like to big up the doood on smart parts stand because he fixed my anti double ball on my impy which i broke the night before!!!( i think he was peeved with me by midday )
Anyway well played peeps hope i get a kill next time but as a first event i cant wait for portugal (and dont throw anything in my afro please) (but i will wear afro combs as long as their bought for me)
Anyway to the M25 leg, i thought it was sweet, with it being my first event i have to admit i dont have alot of exp in tourneys but i thought it was good.
I would also like to big up Mr Pink for his gun checks i heard him calling the next two teams in every time a game started and every team was ready to play their game half way through the game being played before them.
Which i think kept that field nearer to time than the other two.
Also i would like to congratulate all teams at the event especially the teams we came up against (portsmouth uni div 3)
Would also like to big up the doood on smart parts stand because he fixed my anti double ball on my impy which i broke the night before!!!( i think he was peeved with me by midday )
Anyway well played peeps hope i get a kill next time
but as a first event i cant wait for portugal (and dont throw anything in my afro please) (but i will wear afro combs as long as their bought for me)
gaff and co
I have been thinking & it seems funny to me that we all agree constructive criticism & positive feedback are a good thing!
If all ya wanna do is bitch & moan then you will reply to my original post/s, if you know your post to be constructive and/or positive you will read my post/s and probably agree.
I really have no more to say on this matter other than that.
Woz
I have been thinking & it seems funny to me that we all agree constructive criticism & positive feedback are a good thing!
If all ya wanna do is bitch & moan then you will reply to my original post/s, if you know your post to be constructive and/or positive you will read my post/s and probably agree.
I really have no more to say on this matter other than that.
Woz
I as i believe most did thought the event was fantastic
There were problems and they have been highlighted. They take nothing away from all the hard work and effort of the organisers!
As for the judgin we would do it! But DOA Zealots ref enough as it is and we have to play sometime!
There were problems and they have been highlighted. They take nothing away from all the hard work and effort of the organisers!
As for the judgin we would do it! But DOA Zealots ref enough as it is and we have to play sometime!
Woz
cool!
cant be arsed to argue about this anymore anyway, all i want is to assist Sparklie and ensure that the event grows and strengthens. cos if we all offfer the support we should then it will incourage others to organise events as well!
lets hope that the next time we comminicate it is in agreement (although as you said we actually are anyway in a funny way) or its on a field shooting the ****e out of each other!
cool!
cant be arsed to argue about this anymore anyway, all i want is to assist Sparklie and ensure that the event grows and strengthens. cos if we all offfer the support we should then it will incourage others to organise events as well!
lets hope that the next time we comminicate it is in agreement (although as you said we actually are anyway in a funny way) or its on a field shooting the ****e out of each other!
Thanks for listening to all the feed back that was given.
I think you have done a very good job. You've also had the courtesy to explain to everyone why things went wrong, and how you intend to fix them. I have a lot of confidence in your organisation, and i look forward to playing future events.