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M25 Hmmm

Stan

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At campaign Cup we had teams as on field judges
Teams of 3,5,7, what?:confused:
 

Red_Merkin

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Teams of 3,5,7, what?
I'm not 100% sure, but i think that Campaign Power had 9-10 players committed to on field judging. I believe there is a standard number of on field judges for the Millenium series.

My point is that whatever you can do to make the on field judges job easier should help achieve better judging. Providing the judges with frequent breaks, and doing as much as you can to keep them happy, will keep them fresh and on their toes.

I don't want to come across seeming like i'm totally down against the M25 tourney, i really think it was a good event, and i expect that it will only get better in the future. The only reason i'm picking on the judging is because i know if i had been playing i would have been really upset with the quality of 'some' of the judging. Like i said already, it's understandable if you miss a tough call, it happens even to really good judges, but you have to get the basics.

One very positive thing i saw was a lot of players calling paint checks on themselves. And the funniest thing i saw was a player from a UK pro team (not naming names, sorry) get fully gogged, and dive into his baracade to escape the judges. Luckly the judges (and everyone watching) saw this and he was out of there double quick, but he got totally puntered and he didn't walk right away. Oh well, i guess when you're that good, you have to push the bounderies a bit :p
 
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duffistuta

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But was he 1-4-1'd?

I think the judges worked really hard but made life difficult for themselves by not clamping down early on...a lot of players - most of whom should have known better - were shouting and screaming the odds after being pulled...had the judges simply 1-4-1d them , then everyone on field and everyone watching would have got the message loud and clear. They didn't, it continued unabated.

I don't know what was sadder - watching people who've been in the game for a dozen years still screaming like spoilt kids or watching brand new players do it...what's the point in putting on an event in such a visible place when players behave like *******s?
 

Red_Merkin

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I think the judges worked really hard but made life difficult for themselves by not clamping down early on...a lot of players - most of whom should have known better - were shouting and screaming the odds after being pulled...had the judges simply 1-4-1d them , then everyone on field and everyone watching would have got the message loud and clear. They didn't, it continued unabated.
he didn't get 1-4-1 'cause the judge was all over him right away.
Arguing with the judge should simply be a 1-4-1. If a player opens his gob after the judge tells him he's eliminated then he should expect to be 1-4-1 and shouldn't be suprised if he gets extra love from the opposition.
 

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ok just like to say this is not an attack on either sparklie or liz

Right ill start with what i thought was good.

I loved the venue nice flat grass no mud to be seen we were spoilt

Indoor toilets

Trade stands gave a feeling the series sponsors actually cared

A general good atmosphere

nice sunny day

Now what i didnt:

Peoples unnessasary cursing in a venue we were open to the public with a lot of children.

Some dickhead shot at the HSBC signs on the way out(just what we need if we want to come back

the players area was way to small if the wheather had turned bad

the netting could have been better

And now for my biggest gripe the marshalling. I believe it could have been much better. we need better teams to marshall these events. we for one im sure would be willing to marshal the smartparts field for an event as it not only benefits our sponsors, the most excellent smart parts and the lovely people at severe, as they also sponsor the series. but it also would help us pay for a big training weekend before a millennium. Also if you want to attract top teams it is important to have competent marshals who know how to read a game as the margin for success and defeat can be very narrow at this level.

So this is kinda aimed at the top teams, ourselves included, we should help this series out and take turns marshalling as even the best sponsored teams in the uk could do with the extra cash to train. it is also far more beneficial to help the southern seen grow and attract more players than it is to place at a non major tourny.

Anyway thats my thoghts feel free to rip them as im sure many would but it would be nice if it was constructive
 

tb-303

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I agree with those comments mate.
The other bad point i thought was the food. £1 for a small poly cup of tea? bit rich for me, thats why we went to McDonalds(not that piper made us or anything!:D)

teebs
 

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I agree with you mate top teams do need to marshall. I also agree with all of the points that you raised, it was a great first event, and first attempt at a tourney of this size, and with all the feedback that Sparklie has the next one should be awesome.

I think that the drawback of top teams marshalling is that the lower based teams want to watch teams like Tigers, Shockwave, Ecstacy, Backlash play, and having them marshall may affect the way the divisions run, and the number of teams that attend. Its kind of a no win situation.

See you in Portugal

sam
 

jecstacy

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yeah i forgot about that get this a sausage in a roll with no butter TWO bits of onion, a burger that even i wouldnt eat which if you know me is amazing and a bottle of fanta SEVEN pounds FIFTY. i think im gunna get a burger van go to other sporting events then single handadly sponsor uk paintball if thats hat i can charge and get away with
 

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could do what the millenium is doing, offer the teams that are marshalling points in the series, so that all they are missing out on is seeing someone whince when you hit em!:)

could make it mandatory, that all pro and AM teams should marshall one leg of the series.

lots of different incentives are there, but the biggest should be that a well marshalled tourney will undoubtedly atract better teams and thus increase the profile of the league and ultimately the teams that are playing in it!