London attacks - what's going on???
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Well..I was more pointing at the attitude..."dont mess"....our Govt let people walk all over us..and it sucks...put it this way..if there were armed terrorists walking the streets and kiling people, and I "reached out and touched" a few of them...I'd get banged up...
EDIT:Rick...thought your 1st reply was aimed at me..!
EDIT:Rick...thought your 1st reply was aimed at me..!
go skeeet
im in total agreement with skeet......and rick, i didnt know that, that means theres a minority in the uk muslim society who need their heds knoked in!!!
a point system needs to be implemented, similar to the australians..those with enough points, something to offer the country are accepted, others turned away, no ifs, no buts
but this doesnt solve illegal in-migration and the issues of uk based terrorist activities......a harder line MUST be taken on anyone threatening the nations best interestests,
religion and beleifs most certainly have thier positions in society, but any religion or belief, no matter how great or supported in the uk is under restraint of the governing body and if thier beliefs differ to the government, and result in its damage or danger to the population, this beleif has no right to act upon its beleifs therefore must be trampled on!!
basically......they have f*k all rite to do what they did and the uk police need more flexibility to keep the the nation safe and finally eradicate the problem , also the government needs 2 have a harder line on irrational religious behaviour, instead of pussy footing around the issues, constantly attempting to not offend anyone, the government needs to be less afraid of the population's opinion and just do what is necessary NOW!!!!!!
get the f*kers
im in total agreement with skeet......and rick, i didnt know that, that means theres a minority in the uk muslim society who need their heds knoked in!!!
a point system needs to be implemented, similar to the australians..those with enough points, something to offer the country are accepted, others turned away, no ifs, no buts
but this doesnt solve illegal in-migration and the issues of uk based terrorist activities......a harder line MUST be taken on anyone threatening the nations best interestests,
religion and beleifs most certainly have thier positions in society, but any religion or belief, no matter how great or supported in the uk is under restraint of the governing body and if thier beliefs differ to the government, and result in its damage or danger to the population, this beleif has no right to act upon its beleifs therefore must be trampled on!!
basically......they have f*k all rite to do what they did and the uk police need more flexibility to keep the the nation safe and finally eradicate the problem , also the government needs 2 have a harder line on irrational religious behaviour, instead of pussy footing around the issues, constantly attempting to not offend anyone, the government needs to be less afraid of the population's opinion and just do what is necessary NOW!!!!!!
get the f*kers
Charlie, sorry bud, but you're well out of line there. There's a minority in ALL UK society that need their heads knocked in.
TRUE Muslims have condemned these bombings for what they are - cowardly attacks, by wastes of space. Islam is, despite what you might be led to believe by our press and some of the politicians, a peaceful religion.
Sorry, but all this "terror in the name if Islam"/"Islamic terrorists" bollox is really starting to wind me up. If I went and started clubbing seals, would I be referred to as a christian seal clubber, or committing animal cruelty in the name of christ? (apart from the fact I'm not christian, but that's beside the point). No, I wouldn't, because it's irrelevant.
And what sort of country would we be if we "trampled on" religions. That's the sort of thing Hitler did with the Jews remember.
This is a quote that Hotpoint always used to drag out, but I'm starting to see it's point more and more.
"I may not believe in what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
TRUE Muslims have condemned these bombings for what they are - cowardly attacks, by wastes of space. Islam is, despite what you might be led to believe by our press and some of the politicians, a peaceful religion.
Sorry, but all this "terror in the name if Islam"/"Islamic terrorists" bollox is really starting to wind me up. If I went and started clubbing seals, would I be referred to as a christian seal clubber, or committing animal cruelty in the name of christ? (apart from the fact I'm not christian, but that's beside the point). No, I wouldn't, because it's irrelevant.
And what sort of country would we be if we "trampled on" religions. That's the sort of thing Hitler did with the Jews remember.
This is a quote that Hotpoint always used to drag out, but I'm starting to see it's point more and more.
"I may not believe in what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
Any known terrorist Skeet? Even Mandela, back in the day before he was such a great man?
The reference was suppose to point out that there wasnt a particular race/religion that was targeted, but people of all races and creeds - a society; which is why the 'this' and 'them' attitude shouldnt exist in religous form (^points at the muslim remark). But more like the good and the bad.
So all these illegal immigrants in question who "are blatantly abusing the country" (referenced above somewhere) have ideals similar or related to "ppl like al-queda"...?
Question: Who are "the people in question", RE: London - illegal immigrants or Al-Qaeda fractions..? Ive re-read it and it looks to me like your proclaiming both are somehow related.
You may be angry and seek retribution, but I think you should do a lot more than read The Sun before making people "**** off back to where they came from" [EDIT] (Referenced above).
im bnot condeming the lot of em.....
stop jumpin ahed...........u guys r reding 2 much into 2 what im sayin.............
the fact is the group in question( not saying any names so i dont offend anyone just like the british government-pussy footing around the issue ) are part of the muslim faith and , no ****, they are peaceful,i do go 2 college with a bunch of em, hence why they are the people taht need 2 get the message thru 2 thier fellow believers as the non-violent majority to tell the minority that what they are doing is wrong.
and i dont just mean condemning it...........i mean activily going out aiming to stop violent actions for the good of the entire religous group.
+ saying the good and the bad is a bit bullox,its once again generalising, if a finger isnt pointed then noone will take the blame, im not saying point willynilly, but get a position to start from and go from there, finding the most likely culprets etc.., however, at the very start of this issue, around a centurty ago the british government caused the entire problem, and to be honest it really is time we got the hell out of the east!!
charlie
question answer: the issue of illegal in-migration is a separate issue, however it is gradually adding to an imbalance of people in the country, in the future it will cause problems as the people who enter the country illegally have no method of ID, therefore will not be able to get satisfactory jobs and will commit to crimes such as robbery etc....however this is a different matter.
and as for the people in question for now we do not know exactly who committed the crimes, but the overwleming likely hood is taht it was a group who agree with al-queda or are from al-queda as the attaxcks have a simialr style and there is evidence of thier admittance.
flash- trample on those opposing the government YES........just like you would trample on a criminal group.....NOT the entire religion,(if you think i meant that then no.) the minor group(not the religion as a whole 4 all those aiming 2 pik peanuts out of poo) is clearly against the british government and therefore clearly doesnt belong any where near the country, let alone part of its society........the group must be found and removed in the interest of the nations safety
stop jumpin ahed...........u guys r reding 2 much into 2 what im sayin.............
the fact is the group in question( not saying any names so i dont offend anyone just like the british government-pussy footing around the issue ) are part of the muslim faith and , no ****, they are peaceful,i do go 2 college with a bunch of em, hence why they are the people taht need 2 get the message thru 2 thier fellow believers as the non-violent majority to tell the minority that what they are doing is wrong.
and i dont just mean condemning it...........i mean activily going out aiming to stop violent actions for the good of the entire religous group.
+ saying the good and the bad is a bit bullox,its once again generalising, if a finger isnt pointed then noone will take the blame, im not saying point willynilly, but get a position to start from and go from there, finding the most likely culprets etc.., however, at the very start of this issue, around a centurty ago the british government caused the entire problem, and to be honest it really is time we got the hell out of the east!!
charlie
question answer: the issue of illegal in-migration is a separate issue, however it is gradually adding to an imbalance of people in the country, in the future it will cause problems as the people who enter the country illegally have no method of ID, therefore will not be able to get satisfactory jobs and will commit to crimes such as robbery etc....however this is a different matter.
and as for the people in question for now we do not know exactly who committed the crimes, but the overwleming likely hood is taht it was a group who agree with al-queda or are from al-queda as the attaxcks have a simialr style and there is evidence of thier admittance.
flash- trample on those opposing the government YES........just like you would trample on a criminal group.....NOT the entire religion,(if you think i meant that then no.) the minor group(not the religion as a whole 4 all those aiming 2 pik peanuts out of poo) is clearly against the british government and therefore clearly doesnt belong any where near the country, let alone part of its society........the group must be found and removed in the interest of the nations safety
I was referring to those in this country, and those who were causing problems in Ireland...Mandela was a terrorist when he was younger yes, not many people know that...the way I see it...if you know, that a person is a Terrorist, and will continue to be one...regardless of if you have proof that they may or may not have had a hand in killing innocent people...I cant see how they should be left to continue...even if they are a member of an organisation, but havent yet commited, or been involved in murders...simply being a member, means at some point, they most likely will..so...rather than just piss about and wait for them to do something...just shoot them when you see them...our trouble, is they have absolutely no deterrant, to make them think twice about doing something...if they get caught, they might get banged up...we have no death penalty any more (not an actively used one at least)..so...why shouldnt they go round doing as they please...if they thought, that if they get seen in public, they are going to be shot...they would have to think twiceAny known terrorist Skeet? Even Mandela, back in the day before he was such a great man?