It's time to ban pink paint!!!
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FInd out which teams were playing the specific *pink* fields in M25 and contact every one of them asking what paint they used/use.
pink paint is a joke but i can see why people wanna light the opposition up with pink
pink paint is a joke but i can see why people wanna light the opposition up with pink
OK then.......... At STB I (or one of me leetle beeches) will collect a sample of paint from everyone who is willing (please check with your sponsors first), I will carry out one set of tests the following week, i will do the same at the PA cup and again at the final leg. Is anyone willing to do this down south too? label the batches and get them to me OR I'll run of the details of the controlled experiment and you can run them yourselves (you don't need any special equipment, but you will have to be accurate and precise about your measuring).
The other alternative is to encourage your sponsors to get together and do this or send some samples my way (small samples, I don't want to be accused of stockpiling free paint.....20-30 balls from a batch will suffice).
SO........ please post if you want to help, or have any constructive advice (RE paul's post earlier: definately needs to be multi-batch).
Basically, the test will be......... 2 pieces of fabric for each batch, one cotton (representing T-shirts etc.., one nylon representing playing shirts, trousers, skidz and even astro-turf [it's a plastic])
All fabric will come from the same two rolls.
Paint will be test fired at 250 fps at 25 feet, one group of 3 individual hits, one group of ten close packed, rapid fired. A third area will be smeared with crushed paint balls using a set weight (representing paint being trodden in).
The test will be run twice..once washing after an hour. And again after drying for six hours.
Photographs will be taken after the wash, then the wash repeated/photographed. This will carry on until the stains are gone (or the washing machine implodes).
Everything is open to modification e.g. do we run the tests with stain removers etc.... or should this be a separate test?
Best case scenario is that someone in the industry takes it upon themselves to do this. But if not, I'm on it.
The other alternative is to encourage your sponsors to get together and do this or send some samples my way (small samples, I don't want to be accused of stockpiling free paint.....20-30 balls from a batch will suffice).
SO........ please post if you want to help, or have any constructive advice (RE paul's post earlier: definately needs to be multi-batch).
Basically, the test will be......... 2 pieces of fabric for each batch, one cotton (representing T-shirts etc.., one nylon representing playing shirts, trousers, skidz and even astro-turf [it's a plastic])
All fabric will come from the same two rolls.
Paint will be test fired at 250 fps at 25 feet, one group of 3 individual hits, one group of ten close packed, rapid fired. A third area will be smeared with crushed paint balls using a set weight (representing paint being trodden in).
The test will be run twice..once washing after an hour. And again after drying for six hours.
Photographs will be taken after the wash, then the wash repeated/photographed. This will carry on until the stains are gone (or the washing machine implodes).
Everything is open to modification e.g. do we run the tests with stain removers etc.... or should this be a separate test?
Best case scenario is that someone in the industry takes it upon themselves to do this. But if not, I'm on it.
Sounds good
but what happens when you discover, as seems likely from all the discussion, that most brands of pink fill sometimes stain?
but what happens when you discover, as seems likely from all the discussion, that most brands of pink fill sometimes stain?
What???
Staining paint loses venues, full stop.
If you want good venues then we must stop staining paint, this isnt some crappy t-shirt we are talking about, if it was then all paint would stain!
Staining paint has been unexceptable in woods for longer than i care to remember, so what makes you think its ok for Leisure Centres, Sports grounds & Stadiums to get stained up if its unexceptable in woods
Or is it only ok if everyone wears "dark clothes" & all the organisers "move the spectators back, or have them set up in a higher position than the field"
ALL PAINT MUST BE NON STAINING!!!
Woz
That is complete rubbish!Originally posted by Shuck
Thats exactly the point I am making. If YOU are spectating (being a baller) you know about the odd occasional spray that you could get from watching. First time spectators could be put off from this, and its not the image we want to portray.
One way of dealing with this is to move the spectators back, or have them set up in a higher position than the field, like the excellent setup in Huntington Beach. The problem with this solution is that spectators will not be able to get a good view of the action if positioned further back from the field. Also, smaller tourneys would not be able to justify the extra expense to erect seating above the level of the field. A less complicated and more practical solution is to stop using the staining paint until the company responsible has rectified the problem. I know which I would chose
Staining paint loses venues, full stop.
If you want good venues then we must stop staining paint, this isnt some crappy t-shirt we are talking about, if it was then all paint would stain!
Staining paint has been unexceptable in woods for longer than i care to remember, so what makes you think its ok for Leisure Centres, Sports grounds & Stadiums to get stained up if its unexceptable in woods
Or is it only ok if everyone wears "dark clothes" & all the organisers "move the spectators back, or have them set up in a higher position than the field"
ALL PAINT MUST BE NON STAINING!!!
Woz
Yeah staining paint is just pointless, maybe the paint should be tested before it is allowed to be used.
I guess the issue was raised with regards to shirts,
however Woz hit the nail on the head.
We've been trying to get to the bottom of this for Campaign Cup.
I was down at Crystal Palace a few weeks ago, and there are still stains there from last year!
If you guys want to play ball somewhere other than a cow field, then stop shooting staining paint!
And don't be suprised if tournament organisers start hiking prices because they have to pay for grass to be replaced, or extra staff to clean up the paint that you've covered the venu in.
If paint manufacturers don't wise up soon, and stop shipping staining paint to Europe, the promoters are going to have to step in and regulate what kind of paint can be used at an event. It's very simple, either self regulate, or someone will regulate it for you.
however Woz hit the nail on the head.
We've been trying to get to the bottom of this for Campaign Cup.
I was down at Crystal Palace a few weeks ago, and there are still stains there from last year!
If you guys want to play ball somewhere other than a cow field, then stop shooting staining paint!
And don't be suprised if tournament organisers start hiking prices because they have to pay for grass to be replaced, or extra staff to clean up the paint that you've covered the venu in.
If paint manufacturers don't wise up soon, and stop shipping staining paint to Europe, the promoters are going to have to step in and regulate what kind of paint can be used at an event. It's very simple, either self regulate, or someone will regulate it for you.
