Is this then end of milsim markers

[Gassy]

Before I post this I will state I have nothing against Milsim players or their markers,everyone to their own,we are all paintballers.

Taken from a thread on pbnation,Looks like the real guns boys are not happy and suing paintball and airsoft companies

Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. BT Paintball Designs, Inc.
Lawsuit Details

RFC Case Number: T-H09-689B
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00689-DFH-TAB
File Date: Wednesday, June 03, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Brian J. McGinnis, Darlene R. Seymour of Continental Enterprises
Defendant: BT Paintball Designs, Inc.
Cause: 15:1125 Trademark Infringement (Lanham Act)
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge David Frank Hamilton
Referred To: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker

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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Tippman Sports LLC et al

RFC Case Number: T-H09-560T
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00560-WTL-TAB
File Date: Wednesday, May 06, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Brian J. McGinnis, Darlene R. Seymour of Continental Enterprises
Defendant: Tippman Sports LLC
Tigerstripe Paintball LLC
Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge William T. Lawrence
Referred To: Magistrate Judge Tim A. Baker
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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Precision Airsoft, LLC

RFC Case Number: T-H09-485P
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00485-SEB-JMS
File Date: Monday, April 20, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Darlene R. Seymour - Attorney at Law
Defendant: Precision Airsoft, LLC
Cause: 28:1331 Fed. Question: Trademark
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge Sarah Evans Barker
Referred To: Judge Jane Magnus-Stinson
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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Professional Arms, LLC

RFC Case Number: T-H09-387P
Court Case Number: 3:09-cv-00387-AC
File Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Paul G. Dodds of Brownstein Rask Sweeney Kerr Grim
Defendant: Professional Arms, LLC
Cause: 15:1114 Trademark Infringement
Court: Oregon District Court
Judge: Magistrate Judge John V. Acosta
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Heckler & Koch, Inc. v. Coharie Arms, Inc.

RFC Case Number: T-H09-184C
Court Case Number: 1:09-cv-00184-RLY-JMS
File Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009
Plaintiff: Heckler & Koch, Inc.
Plaintiff Counsel: Darlene R. Seymour - Attorney at Law
Defendant: Coharie Arms, Inc.
Special Weapons, Inc.
Cause: 28:1441 Petition for Removal
Court: Indiana Southern District Court
Judge: Judge Richard L. Young
Referred To: Judge Jane Magnus-Stinson
Notes: NOTICE OF REMOVAL from Hamilton County Superior Court, case number 29D02-0810-PL-1323.
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[timmyh007]

a, I allowed to say good riddance to milsim markers and players or will that upset people? They give the game a bad name. If you want military simulation why dont you join the army or the territorials at least?

 

[Bambulus]

I don't think the recent brush with Germany over 'simulated killing' really helps milsim either.

They're getting it rough.

edit:
And in short, no. Milsim markers will just be redesigned until they're not deemed as infringing copyright. Tiberius and all that will still stand strong.

 

[Gassy]

a, I allowed to say good riddance to milsim markers and players or will that upset people? They give the game a bad name. If you want military simulation why dont you join the army or the territorials at least?

They do not give paintball a bad name,infact I would like to know why you think they do ?

The people I have seen giving paintball a bad name is the sup air ballers at european events leaving their accomadation a sh11tpit or shooting and killing the wild life.

I have never seen anything like this about the milsim players and I say this as a supair player myself.

 

[timmyh007]

I agree. And with such beautiful products released by the likes of Planet and Dye why would you want to run around looking like a failed member of a spetsnatz unit.

Agreeing with Bambulus not Gassy. And i never said anything about behaviour just image

 

[Mactoshdog]

so why has it taken this company so long to realise these markers are out there?

edit:
timmy, seriously what do you have against senario?? i know several people who play and their all top lads!

 

[Rider]

i doubt it will be the end for milsim markers. HK will simply be looking for recompense for these companies producing markers that are visually based on their firearms and i guess that image has been used without the permission of HK.

what they will want to do is first assert their authority over the trademark design (the look of the firearm) and then probably allow the manufacturers to carry on making them after they agree to license the design and no doubt provide backpay for the units already sold.

what it may mean is either that milsim markers will be more military styled in the future, rather than based on a specific design, or will suffer from a price hike to cover the license fee......

 

[Bambulus]

I agree. And with such beautiful products released by the likes of Planet and Dye why would you want to run around looking like a failed member of a spetsnatz unit.

Agreeing with Bambulus not Gassy. And i never said anything about behaviour just image

Why do we run around bouncy castles in power ranger outfits?


Different strokes for different folks. Some people get their kicks from planning and engaging in tactical simulations, it's recreational. Some people actually like to practice things like this without the burdon of killing, and I can see why.

My brain really isn't working at the moment, for some reason I can't vocalise fully what I'm tring to say.

 

[Cook$]

If you want military simulation why dont you join the army or the territorials at least?

Can I get a group of mates from work, join the army for 6 hours, play 10 games then go home?

Let's get rid of scenario ball. Then we can get rid of rec ball. Eventually, it'll be just tourney ballers left and the sport will go from strength to strength....

 

[spangley_special]

you can do, however you'll spend the next week struggling to adjust to normality again. In and out of therapy trying to deal with the post traumatic stresses of it all.