If Xball died tomorrow....

[Steve Hancock]

Originally posted by sjt19
If there were more Xball events in the MS, say 6 XBall events, and you told the 8 EXL teams that they were not allowed to play 7 man again, i doubt you would hear any complaints!

Despite the problems that such a prohibition caused in the NXL? You might be right but based on the only other example i would suggest that its a little far fetched.

 

[sjt19]

Originally posted by Steve Hancock
Despite the problems that such a prohibition caused in the NXL? You might be right but based on the only other example i would suggest that its a little far fetched.

The problem with the NXL is that there were only 5 events, and the promised money frmo TV didnt come. I dont think that Euro players in the EXL are that bothered about TV money, i certainly am not, i just want to ply Xball. Its the most enjoyable format there is. It rules.

If there were more events and money had not been an issue, then i doubt that there would have been so many NXL players/teams leaving.

If you told me/the rest of the EXL teams that they were only allowed to play 6/7 Xball events in the MS and that was it, then i doubt you would have many objections. Aside from the desire to keep both options (Xball and 7man) doors open in case one dies.

 

[Steve Hancock]

Originally posted by MrPink
Um, the control of the game (Tournement's at least) is already in the hands of those who's aim is to make money from it, and has been for as long as I can remember. Whether it's a strength or not - the fact remains that 99% of Paintballers pay to play whatever format they prefer, and the companies that exist to allow those players to play also exist to make money.

In a situation where the format is unbranded, anyone can run an event oif players are unhappy they can move to another event and still be playing the main format. Yes they will still be paying but there will be a freeier market. If the format is branded, then the only sanctioned events would be able to offer the main format, and the player is more constrained in his choice as there is effectivly a monopoly.

 

[Steve Hancock]

SJT

Yeah good points, Perhaps it would be different in the Euro scene.

 

[sykesg]

Agreed!

Originally posted by sjt19
Its the most enjoyable format there is. It rules.

 

[DarWood]

My personal opinion on X-Ball is that it looks the 'shizzle!!'
As a young player myself, and only been in the game for a year and 8 months now, there are some considerable differences between 7-man and X-Ball. From my short lived sideline marshaling and viewing of the Tigers train against ducks a month back, i was able to witness the intense frustration, the aggressiveness and basically how demanding the format really is.
X-Ball is indeed the way forward. It capitilizes on all the necessary functions of a pro sport, maybe more. Anyone who says its crap just cant imagine keeping up with the game. It requires a dept far greater than 7 man in terms of commitment, not only in playing, but training, general fitness and definetly MONEY!!
I have never personally played X-Ball, but sincerely would like too. But would never consider playing an x-ball event or for a team until i committed myself to the proper training, the fitness, and be prepared financially to be in the game.

Long live X-BALL!!!!

Darren

 

[martin]

yup

Once it sinks into peoples nuggets that you can't exist with 1 game plan and one skill set, a whole other set of skills also need to be worked on becomes apparent (you might realise that TRAINING is key). Again a SCARY concept for 95% of UK teams. It is actually Cheaper to train than to play punter or novice tournaments too, and the benefits to your game are evident. The skill sets of X Ball teams training rather than playing local or UK domestic events means abilities are polarising at an alarming rate. A big catalyst of this is the X-Ball format. If players in the UK were ranked in order of ability (which is going to be very difficult), at a guess I'd say pretty much the top 75 out of 100 are ALL either playing or training for X-ball (btw that top 100 includes all the "genuine" Divisional Pros and AM A's and a good proportion of genuine AmB ability players


a point well made anyone notice teams missing from events?
This has not happened over night, my team has been doing this for 9 months and not being big head it show's.
People should not hate until they try it.
Me i bloody love it
'winner stays on'

 

[ices]

You cant compare the two formats really in terms of technicality so you will always have the pros and cons of both.

If 7 man tournaments were to have quicker turnaround, like the PA, then you would be happier in having most/all of your games within say an hour or 2?

I've not played X-ball, but Ive seen it and the only thing that bothers me is the coaching aspect.

It doesnt let you have any surprises if the coach can clearly see whats going on so you wouldn't have tense moments between players not knowing where their opposite is.

1v1 in Xball would have this element, but its not really the same is it?

If 7 man was to be modified in a way it combines some xball elements then you could satisfy a lot of people who may otherwise end up split between the two formats.

7 man tourneys have slow turnarounds, but what do you expect if there are 50+ teams??




*Wonder if ill play xball...hmm*

 

[sjt19]

Originally posted by ices

I've not played X-ball, but Ive seen it and the only thing that bothers me is the coaching aspect.

It doesnt let you have any surprises if the coach can clearly see whats going on so you wouldn't have tense moments between players not knowing where their opposite is.

No offence but you dont know what you are talking about. In Paris the only player who could actually hear the coach is the player in thew snake. Because of the risk of people on the sideline shouting out the wrong information to you, you just ignore everything you hear other than the voice of the coach. But the noise from the crowd and the guns, combined with the distance between the other 4 players and the coach makes any communication between the coach and the other 4 players nigh on imposible. You know where your opposite is through sight, and communication. JUST THE SAME AS IN 7 MAN.

 

[D. Random]

Originally posted by sjt19
No offence but you dont know what you are talking about. In Paris the only player who could actually hear the coach is the player in thew snake. Because of the risk of people on the sideline shouting out the wrong information to you, you just ignore everything you hear other than the voice of the coach. But the noise from the crowd and the guns, combined with the distance between the other 4 players and the coach makes any communication between the coach and the other 4 players nigh on imposible. You know where your opposite is through sight, and communication. JUST THE SAME AS IN 7 MAN.

So they only listen to the coach even though they cant hear him/her!? Sorry, i know what you meant but if i didnt say it someone would have!
Are they there purely to coach one person, if so does this mean you just put your weakest player nearest the coach. If the entire team cant hear and its all about plays (as it clearly is) whats the point in having him/her there? Wont they just be putting off one person on the field not letting him/her run off the skills and instincts he/she has developed through training with his/her team-mates? I may well be missing some major point here, but its always nice to put in your 2p's worth!